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Julie's example indicates plants DO feel pain.  =20
..as if that makes any difference.
Your qualification for edible organisms didn't mention "does not feel =
pain", only that they don't live, breathe, or ...um, have faces?
You can exclude anything you want from your diet (I choose cauliflower, =
myself) but base it on taste, not which is the more 'noble' organism, =
'cause you can't win that debate.

Larry
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: melissa koshmieder=20
  To: juliemac57@hotmail.com=20
  Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:14 PM
  Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal


  yeah, but they dont have nerve endings, nor a central nervous system.  =
=3D no=20
  pain when "slaughtered".



  -melissa-
  Harrisburg, Pa
  86 8v Scirocco ("new" body for my 87)
  87 8v Scirocco (recently wrecked; guts soon to be donated to the 86)
  87 Wolfsburg Jetta, 4dr





  >From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
  >To: onequikkitty@hotmail.com, sad_rocc@yahoo.com
  >CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  >Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal
  >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:11:51 +0000
  >
  >Melissa, did you know that plants are sentient?
  >By attaching electrodes to a plant (EEG) a plant had leaves burned =
and torn=20
  >by one person. Another came in and helped the plant. Talking to it,=20
  >watering it and caring for it.
  >
  >When the abuser came back in the plant reacted violently on the=20
  >oscillograph. The plant calmed down once they left and the nice =
person came=20
  >in.
  >
  >Sorry  :)
  >
  >
  >Julie Macfarlane
  >Menlo Park Research & Development
  >Internet Application Developer
  >www.menloparkrandd.com
  >www.montgomeryweb.org
  >Amsterdam NY
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >>From: "melissa koshmieder" <onequikkitty@hotmail.com>
  >>To: sad_rocc@yahoo.com
  >>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  >>Subject: RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal
  >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:57:56 +0000
  >>
  ><< message3.txt >>


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Julie's example indicates plants DO =
feel=20
pain.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>..as if that makes any =
difference.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your qualification for edible organisms =
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mention "does not feel pain", only that they don't live, breathe, or =
...um, have=20
faces?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can exclude anything you want from =
your diet (I=20
choose cauliflower, myself) but base it on taste, not which is the more =
'noble'=20
organism, 'cause you can't win that debate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A href=3D"mailto:onequikkitty@hotmail.com"=20
  title=3Donequikkitty@hotmail.com>melissa koshmieder</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:juliemac57@hotmail.com"=20
  title=3Djuliemac57@hotmail.com>juliemac57@hotmail.com</A> </DIV>
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  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY =
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  meal</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>yeah, but they dont have nerve endings, nor a central =
nervous=20
  system.&nbsp; =3D no <BR>pain when=20
  "slaughtered".<BR><BR><BR><BR>-melissa-<BR>Harrisburg, Pa<BR>86 8v =
Scirocco=20
  ("new" body for my 87)<BR>87 8v Scirocco (recently wrecked; guts soon =
to be=20
  donated to the 86)<BR>87 Wolfsburg Jetta, =
4dr<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt;From:=20
  "Julie Macfarlane" &lt;<A=20
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  RE: (Urgent!) - CINCY - Saturday meal<BR>&gt;Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 =
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  +0000<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Melissa, did you know that plants are =
sentient?<BR>&gt;By=20
  attaching electrodes to a plant (EEG) a plant had leaves burned and =
torn=20
  <BR>&gt;by one person. Another came in and helped the plant. Talking =
to it,=20
  <BR>&gt;watering it and caring for it.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;When the abuser =
came=20
  back in the plant reacted violently on the <BR>&gt;oscillograph. The =
plant=20
  calmed down once they left and the nice person came=20
  <BR>&gt;in.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Sorry&nbsp; :)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Julie =

  Macfarlane<BR>&gt;Menlo Park Research &amp; =
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