Stand-alone engine management?

[jdbubb@ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)]

These standalone systems are not car/make specific. (Unless you drive a
Honda!) I believe there is a Canadian company that has created a wiring
harness and maps for a DTA system to make it plug and play on the 16V
although not sure what models or the whether the it directly fits the
16V Scirocco.
I installed a Haltech E6K on my 8V. It's up to you to decide where to
put the sensors and the wiring harness is only terminated at the ECU
end. It took me a week fulltime to convert my 8V from CIS to the E6K and
a year later I still adjust the maps on occasion. Also, it's worth
pointing out that the fuel maps need to be changed if you make changes
to your engine that effect volumetric efficiency. Different cams,
different exhaust or downpipe, even something as simple as changing cam
timing! You would not believe the difference in maps between a G grind
cam and a 274! Unless you understand ignition and fuel systems and know
approximately what the shape of the maps should be I wouldn't tackle
this without help.
As far as EIP; there was a guy at the NGP dyno days that paid EIP $2000
to install and tune a TEC II on his Scirocco. The tuning sucked and EIP
will not give him some files he needs to modify them. Also, he said the
wiring in some cases was just ends twisted together with electrical tape
over it! He had to redo the wiring himself.
There are a million stories of how EIP have screwed people. There's a
reason there is no link to EIP on Scirocco.org.

Ryan H wrote:
> 
> I was just looking through those links, and they don't seem to say anything specific about their systems for VW. (Very general info).  Only EIP has stuff about TEC-II for my car...
> So I was sorta looking for people who have experience with these systems on their cars here.
> 
> >
> > From: Brett Van Sprewenburg <brett@netacc.net>
> > Date: 2002/10/27 Sun PM 11:22:57 EST
> > To: Ryan H <rhock99@epix.net>
> > CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: Stand-alone engine management?
> >
> > >Are there any stand-alone engine management systems available for a
> > >16v?   I'm looking for one that controls spark and timing advance,
> > >maybe via the knock sensor, coolant temp. sensor, hall sender,
> > >throttle switches, plugs, etc.
> > >I'm sick of the problems with my knock system, and plan on adding a
> > >turbo in the future, so it would be nice to have a SEM system to
> > >learn until then...  Thanks.
> >
> > Check the links on scirocco.org, the Engine & Fuel Management
> > section.  You'll find 5-7
> > links to different makers of stand alone engine management systems.
> > I think you could
> > probably find some expertise on just about every one of them listed
> > by someone on this
> > mailing list. :)  I'm going with SDS in case anyone cares, as it fit
> > my price point, and gels
> > with my level of expertise and tuning expectations.
> >
> > Any one of those systems is capable of running a 16v, or a turbo 16v
> > for that matter.
> >
> > ==Brett
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >   \/  `87 Scirocco 2.0t project | "Hot VW's, take two home. They're small"
> > \/\/ '88 Scirocco 16v,  '84 Scirocco ITB racer project | - brett@netacc.net
> >
> 
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