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WRX vs. 1.8t
What dyno charts? Where?
FYI, AWD dyno charts, when available, cannot be
compared to 2WD dyno charts. Read your SCC. :)
Neal
--- Josh20V <mkii@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> haven't been paying any attention to this thread,
> so I don't know if this
> was brought up or not. But the WRX when on the dyno
> is producing much
> smaller numbers than advertised, they need mods just
> to get to where they
> should be at according to the factory.
>
>
> Josh Able
> www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> "If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as
> well dance." -Gil
> Atkinson
>
> *GERMANY 2003 - a dub odyssey*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Tovsen" <nealtovsen@yahoo.com>
> To: "Rabbit16v" <Rabbit16v@attbi.com>; "Scirocco
> List"
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: WRX vs. 1.8t
>
>
> > OK, these arguments are getting a bit absurd. So
> you
> > like the 1.8T? Great! That's totally cool, and it
> is a
> > great car. Nobody is arguing that. Nobody has, and
> > nobody will.
> >
> > Buy why bash something you haven't tried yet? Why
> do
> > you feel required to make this stuff up? Does it
> > threaten you so much? You're certainly entitled to
> > your opinions, but you should have some knowledge
> of
> > the opposition so you know you're correct. If
> you're
> > so biased that you'll never buy an asian car, that
> is
> > your right, but don't pretend it's based on
> objective
> > performance facts.
> >
> > Magazine ads and reviews are clearly not enough
> > evidence for you. I respect that, and in fact
> think
> > that's a good thing since you're right: they
> > definitely are biased. However I therefore
> challenge
> > you to go test drive the car and prove your own
> > theories for youself. I would also insist that, in
> > order to actually see what the car is like in
> > performance scenarios, go to an autocross and take
> > rides with owners of both cars...hopefully both
> with
> > good drivers.
> >
> > Pay attention when you're at the autox, and note
> that
> > the 1.8T (incl. the 337) isn't even in the same
> class
> > (GS) as the WRX (DS). The 1.8T's are in GS with
> the
> > 2.5RS, and while the RS has a number of
> national-level
> > trophies, nobody drives a 1.8T competitively in GS
> (or
> > any other class where the 1.8T is legal). For
> > real-world, side-by-side comparison, go to
> > http://www.scca.org and look through the ProSolo
> and
> > National Tour results for the past year.
> >
> > If you don't like something, that's fine. But if
> > you've never tried it and know nothing about it,
> don't
> > be surprised if people stop listening.
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > --- Rabbit16v <Rabbit16v@attbi.com> wrote:
> > > Well, I see two problems here. One is IF a 1.8T
> > > pulls harder with just FWD than an AWD car that
> is
> > > suppose to be over 200hp the question is do you
> NEED
> > > AWD? I don't and probably never will NEED it so
> why
> > > not go for the lower hp lower maintenance
> vehicle
> > > that is faster in the first place? If you don't
> > > NEED AWD then why buy a car that sells by it's
> hp
> > > that gets sucked up in the drivetrain?
> > >
> > > The second problem is that anyone who believes
> that
> > > the WRX has the horsepower they advertise at the
> > > wheels is a chump. Forever German manufacturers
> > > have advertised conservative wheel hp and Asian
> > > manufacturers have advertised liberal crank hp.
> I
> > > don't know for sure if it has changed but I will
> > > never be convinced by an advertisement!!
> > >
> > > I'll never own an Asian car!!
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: XXSpArCoXx@aol.com
> > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: WRX vs. 1.8t
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/24/02 2:45:17 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time, SCIROCCO_SPEED@msn.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > but for some reason, a 150hp 1.8t in a VW
> seems
> > > to pull harder in the first few gears than a
> 180hp
> > > Audi ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm lets think . . all wheel drive system. It
> > > takes more power from the car. Sure it won't
> have as
> > > much pull of the line. But you can build
> stronger
> > > motor on all wheel drive system and not worry as
> > > much about traction issues.
> > >
> > > On the Highway I have no real problem keeping
> up
> > > with modded 1.8t's with my RS where as with my
> 16v I
> > > tend to get drop up until the real high MPH's
> > >
> > > Ok I'm off . . I must figure out how to
> > > sequentially turbo charge my RS . .
> > >
> > > Later
> > > ~Danny~
> > > 88 16v
> > > 01 2.5 RS
> >
> >
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