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Maybe I missed this part but I'll post rather than leaf through the old
mails.

How would you ship the cars?  And what do you do for local transportation
after you send your daily driver on a two week boat trip to Europe?  Also,
are you planning on flying after the cars arrive, or taking a nice
"freighter" cruise?

What are the costs associated with insurance in Europe?  I am assuming that
you can't just drive around over there in a car that you own without some
type of local insurance?


Brian Honnold
Vice President Multifamily Acquisitions
Pacific Capital Investments
Phone:  916.773.3300
Fax:  916.773.3208


-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On
Behalf Of Josh Able
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:32 AM
To: Brian Wagner; Allyn; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal


I've hit hostels on other trips around the world, personally I would rather
skip that pleasure again. :P


Josh Able
www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
Atkinson



----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Wagner <mailto:scirocco_88_16v@hotmail.com>
To: Josh Able <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com>  ; Allyn
<mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net>  ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

Look in to hostles (sp) it would be much cheap and you would meet more
people. Just a thought, sounds like fun but I can't do it.

Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Able <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com>
To: Allyn <mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net>  ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

Here are some costs Dirk sent me

average hotel : 60-70 Euro/night/room
average dinner ( restaurant ): 25 Euro / person
fast-food : 10 Euro/meal & drinks
1 euro = 1 USD.

even if we spent every night in a hotel, with 2 people per room that would
be about 1470$ (at 70$ per night/21 days), or 735$ per person. So that
brings the cost to about 1550$ per person if 2 people split shipping and
hotel. Then of course GAS..its allot, about 50$ to fill the tank. A tank a
day? 1050$, split 2 ways $525.

So basically, the 3 biggest costs outside of FOOD (pack our own, coolers,
save cash, etc) come to about 4100$. Split in 1/2 due to 2 people splitting
those costs = 2050$.


Josh Able
www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
Atkinson



----- Original Message -----
From: Allyn <mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net>
To: Josh Able <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com>  ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

you know, we may be able to save on alot of hotels (we - assuming i can
come). theres a decent amt of scirocco guys sprinkled around there. Its a
bit of a stretch, but i have family in rome and possibly north italy, if you
were thinking of getting that far south.
Al


----- Original Message -----
From: Josh  <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com> Able
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

well, for a car that old I think its easy to "sneak' in, at least from the
conversations we had back when that topic came up.

As for crashing at Dirks, we might for a day or two, but for the most part
we will not be since we will be in other parts of the country!

of course this is also up to Dirk.


Josh Able
www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
Atkinson



----- Original Message -----
From: Allyn <mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net>
To: Josh Able <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com>  ; Leach, Michael
<mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com>  ; Dirk  <mailto:Scirocco@t-online.de>
Schneider
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

josh,
    didnt dirk have a buddy with a warehouse full of mk1's? some of which
needed to go to a good home? i may consider coming along to bring a mk1 back
with me. (or perhaps a hornstein mk2, if i could find a beat up one to
restore). so... how would we get said german titled car transferred over to
the states and registered here? whose got info on this?
by the way, how many of us would be crashing at dirks place??? (heh).
Al


----- Original Message -----
From: Josh  <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com> Able
To: Leach, Michael <mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

shit, I know as well as most of the list that you wouldn't be able to go,
you have to many ties, plus Daffy would probably kick all our ass's. :P

that response was more in the way of pointing out to other listers that the
costs really are not to bad.
3000$ for about a 3 week trip to Europe and Germany isnt that bad! heck a
rental car for that time period will run over 1000$ (closer to 1300), and
you wouldn't have a 10th of the fun as ripping in a Scirocco!!!

anyways Mike, your still a WUSS!!!! :D


Josh Able
www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
Atkinson



----- Original Message -----
From: Leach, Michael <mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com>
To: 'Josh  <mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com> Able'
Cc: 'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: who has too much $$$ the family mans rebuttal

Don't be a wuss???

man you have no idea of what being married with 4 kids does to your life
.......there are just some things.....screw some things........a lot of
things that you just have to accept you can not do and will not be able to
do because of sacrifices that have to be made.......now I know that Josh is
just screwing around with me and that is cool I am not bothered by his
comments he is just kidding

but the sell the kids or that's why I am not married comments get a little
old.   It is cool if you feel that way about marriage and kids but I do not.
Cars are just that and a family is the real important thing.

just keep in mind in thirty years what is going to make you more
happy....your family and grandkids or the rocc......yeah I know the comments
will come back for the rocc from some people but oh well

and on another note your car will never try to put you in a old folks home
....your car doesn't want you in a home, just the poor house


Michael Leach
LAMPS Integration and Test
Lockheed Martin Federal Systems
Owego, NY 13827
607-751-7542
FAX 751-6198
michael.leach@lmco.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Able [mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Leach, Michael
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: who has too much $$$ and wants to spend it in a "good" way?


5000$ on a credit card is cake man!

shit, start saving now, you have 6 months!  And if you split the cost with
another person (say you and Brett take his car) that takes about 1250$ off
the shipping, then splitting hotel rooms, and splitting gas/etc.

Heck, I bet 2 people can do this for 3000$ each (that includes some play
money of course!) that's only 125$ a week! And if you do what Im going to
do, and that's to only have half in "cash" and use a Credit Card for the
other half, that means you only need about $60 a week!!!!

Come on don't be a wuss!!!!


Josh Able
www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
Atkinson



----- Original Message -----
From: Leach, Michael <mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com>
To: 'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:48 AM
Subject: who has too much $$$ and wants to spend it in a "good" way?

The real question Josh is where are you getting all this money from


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

are you a male dancer again

how are those tear off pants working for you??

Michael Leach
LAMPS Integration and Test
Lockheed Martin Federal Systems
Owego, NY 13827
607-751-7542
FAX 751-6198
michael.leach@lmco.c <mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com> om




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I missed this part but I'll post rather than leaf through the old=20
mails.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D882491217-07102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>How=20
would you ship the cars?&nbsp; And what do you do for local =
transportation after=20
you send your daily driver on a two week boat trip to Europe?&nbsp; =
Also, are=20
you planning on flying after the cars arrive, or taking a nice =
"freighter"=20
cruise?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D882491217-07102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D882491217-07102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>What=20
are the costs associated with insurance in Europe?&nbsp; I am assuming =
that you=20
can't just drive around over there in a car that you own without some =
type of=20
local insurance?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D882491217-07102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Brian Honnold<BR>Vice President Multifamily=20
Acquisitions<BR>Pacific Capital Investments<BR>Phone:&nbsp;=20
916.773.3300<BR>Fax:&nbsp; 916.773.3208<BR></FONT></P>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On=20
  Behalf Of </B>Josh Able<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 07, 2002 9:32=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Brian Wagner; Allyn;=20
  scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: who has too much $$$ =
the family=20
  mans rebuttal<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>I've hit hostels on other trips around the =
world,=20
  personally I would rather skip that pleasure again. =
:P</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Josh Able<BR><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.JsHouseOfEuro.com";>www.JsHouseOfEuro.com</A><BR>"If =
you're=20
  already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil Atkinson =
</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dscirocco_88_16v@hotmail.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:scirocco_88_16v@hotmail.com";>Brian Wagner</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 07, =
2002 12:22=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who has too much =
$$$ the=20
    family mans rebuttal</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look in to hostles (sp) it would be =
much cheap=20
    and you would meet more people. Just a thought, sounds like fun but =
I can't=20
    do it.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> ; <A=20
      title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 07, =
2002 11:11=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who has too =
much $$$ the=20
      family mans rebuttal</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Here&nbsp;are some costs Dirk sent=20
      me</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>average hotel : 60-70 Euro/night/room<BR>average dinner ( =
restaurant=20
      ): 25 Euro / person<BR>fast-food : 10 Euro/meal &amp;=20
      drinks<BR><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>1 euro =3D 1 =
USD.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>even if we spent every night in a =
hotel, with 2=20
      people per room that would be about 1470$ (at 70$ per night/21 =
days), or=20
      735$ per person. So that brings the cost to about 1550$ per person =
if 2=20
      people split shipping and hotel. Then of course GAS..its allot, =
about 50$=20
      to fill the tank. A tank a day? 1050$, split 2 ways=20
      $525.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>So basically, the 3 biggest costs =
outside of=20
      FOOD (pack our own, coolers, save cash, etc) come to about 4100$. =
Split in=20
      1/2 due to 2 people splitting those costs =3D 2050$. =
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Josh Able<BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.JsHouseOfEuro.com";>www.JsHouseOfEuro.com</A><BR>"If=20
      you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil =

      Atkinson </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
        href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com=20
        href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A> ; <A=20
        title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 07, =
2002=20
        11:57 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who has too =
much $$$=20
        the family mans rebuttal</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you know, we may be able to =
save on alot of=20
        hotels (we - assuming i can come). theres a decent amt of =
scirocco guys=20
        sprinkled around there. Its a bit of a stretch, but i have =
family in=20
        rome and possibly north italy, if you were thinking of getting =
that far=20
        south.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh=20
          Able</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A>=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October =
07, 2002=20
          11:55 AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who has =
too much $$$=20
          the family mans rebuttal</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>well, for a car that old I think =
its easy to=20
          "sneak' in, at least from the conversations we had back when =
that=20
          topic came up. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>As for crashing at Dirks, we might =
for a day=20
          or two, but for the most part we will not be since we will be =
in other=20
          parts of the country!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>of course this is also up to=20
          Dirk.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
          <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Josh Able<BR><A=20
          =
href=3D"http://www.JsHouseOfEuro.com";>www.JsHouseOfEuro.com</A><BR>"If=20
          you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." =
-Gil=20
          Atkinson </DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
          style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
            <DIV=20
            style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
            <A title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
            href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com=20
            href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A> ; <A=20
            title=3Dmichael.leach@lmco.com=20
            href=3D"mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com";>Leach, Michael</A> ; =
<A=20
            title=3DScirocco@t-online.de =
href=3D"mailto:Scirocco@t-online.de";>Dirk=20
            Schneider</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
            title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A>=20
            </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October =
07, 2002=20
            11:44 AM</DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who has =
too much=20
            $$$ the family mans rebuttal</DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>josh,</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; didnt =
dirk have a=20
            buddy with a warehouse full of mk1's? some of which needed =
to go to=20
            a good home? i may consider coming along to bring a mk1 back =
with=20
            me. (or perhaps a hornstein mk2, if i could find a beat up =
one to=20
            restore). so... how would we get said german titled car =
transferred=20
            over to the states and registered here? whose got info on=20
            this?</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>by the way, how many of us =
would be=20
            crashing at dirks place??? (heh).</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
            style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
----- </DIV>
              <DIV=20
              style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
              <A title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh=20
              Able</A> </DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
              title=3Dmichael.leach@lmco.com=20
              href=3D"mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com";>Leach, Michael</A> =
</DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
              title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A>=20
              </DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, =
October 07,=20
              2002 9:28 AM</DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who =
has too much=20
              $$$ the family mans rebuttal</DIV>
              <DIV><BR></DIV>
              <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>shit, I know as well as most =
of the list=20
              that you wouldn't be able to go, you have to many ties, =
plus Daffy=20
              would probably kick&nbsp;all our&nbsp;ass's.=20
              :P</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
              <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>that response was more in the =
way of=20
              pointing out to other listers that the costs really are =
not to=20
              bad. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
              <DIV>3000$ for about a 3 week trip to Europe and Germany =
isnt that=20
              bad! heck a rental car for that time period will run over =
1000$=20
              (closer to 1300), and you wouldn't have a 10th of the fun =
as=20
              ripping in a Scirocco!!!</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>anyways Mike, your still a =
WUSS!!!!=20
              :D</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
              <DIV><STRONG><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Josh Able<BR><A=20
              =
href=3D"http://www.JsHouseOfEuro.com";>www.JsHouseOfEuro.com</A><BR>"If=20
              you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well =
dance." -Gil=20
              Atkinson </DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
              style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
-----=20
</DIV>
                <DIV=20
                style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
                <A title=3Dmichael.leach@lmco.com=20
                href=3D"mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com";>Leach, =
Michael</A> </DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
                title=3Dmkii@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>'Josh=20
                Able'</A> </DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
                title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
                =
href=3D"mailto:'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'">'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'</A>=20
                </DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, =
October 07,=20
                2002 9:12 AM</DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: who =
has too=20
                much $$$ the family mans rebuttal</DIV>
                <DIV><BR></DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Don't be a =
wuss???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>man you have no idea of what =
being married=20
                with 4 kids does to&nbsp;your life&nbsp;.......there are =
just=20
                some things.....screw some things........a lot of things =
that=20
                you just have to accept you can not do and will not be =
able to=20
                do because of sacrifices that have to be made.......now =
I know=20
                that Josh is just screwing around with me and that is =
cool I am=20
                not bothered by his comments he is just=20
                kidding</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>but&nbsp;the sell the kids or =
that's why I=20
                am not married comments get a little =
old.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is=20
                cool if you feel that way about marriage and kids but I =
do=20
                not.&nbsp; Cars are just that and a family is the real =
important=20
                thing. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>just keep in mind =
in&nbsp;thirty years=20
                what&nbsp;is going to make you more happy....your family =
and=20
                grandkids or the rocc......yeah I know the comments will =
come=20
                back for the rocc from some people but oh=20
                well</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN class=3D093180013-07102002><FONT face=3DArial =

                color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>and on another note your car =
will never try=20
                to put you in a&nbsp;old folks home&nbsp;....your car =
doesn't=20
                want you in a home, just the poor=20
                house&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>Michael=20
                Leach</FONT></B> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 =

                size=3D2>LAMPS Integration and Test </FONT><BR><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
                color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Lockheed Martin Federal Systems =

                </FONT><BR><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>Owego, NY=20
                13827</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080=20
                size=3D2>607-751-7542</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
                size=3D2>FAX 751-6198</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
                size=3D2>michael.leach@lmco.c</FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
                color=3D#000080 size=3D2>om </FONT></P>
                <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
                face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
                Josh Able [mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Monday,=20
                October 07, 2002 8:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Leach,=20
                Michael<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
                Re: who has too much $$$ and wants to spend it in a =
"good"=20
                way?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>5000$ on a credit card is =
cake=20
                man!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>shit, start saving now, you =
have 6=20
                months!&nbsp; And if you split the cost with another =
person (say=20
                you and Brett take his car) that takes about 1250$ off =
the=20
                shipping, then splitting hotel rooms, and splitting=20
                gas/etc.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Heck, I bet 2 people can do =
this for=20
                3000$ each (that includes some play money of course!) =
that's=20
                only 125$ a week! And if you do what Im going to do, and =
that's=20
                to only have half in "cash" and use a Credit Card for =
the other=20
                half, that means you only need about&nbsp;$60 a week!!!! =

                </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>Come on don't be a=20
                wuss!!!!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>Josh Able<BR><A=20
                =
href=3D"http://www.JsHouseOfEuro.com";>www.JsHouseOfEuro.com</A><BR>"If=20
                you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well =
dance."=20
                -Gil Atkinson </DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
                style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
                  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
-----=20
                  </DIV>
                  <DIV=20
                  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
                  <A title=3Dmichael.leach@lmco.com=20
                  href=3D"mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com";>Leach, =
Michael</A> </DIV>
                  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
                  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
                  =
href=3D"mailto:'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'">'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'</A>=20
                  </DIV>
                  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, =
October 07,=20
                  2002 7:48 AM</DIV>
                  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> who =
has too much=20
                  $$$ and wants to spend it in a "good" way?</DIV>
                  <DIV><BR></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002>The real question Josh is =
where are=20
                  you getting all this&nbsp;money =
from&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  =
class=3D203234711-07102002>HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002>are you a male dancer=20
                  again</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
                  class=3D203234711-07102002>how are those tear off =
pants working=20
                  for you??</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
                  <P><B><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>Michael=20
                  Leach</FONT></B> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
                  size=3D2>LAMPS Integration and Test </FONT><BR><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
                  color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Lockheed Martin Federal =
Systems=20
                  </FONT><BR><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2>Owego, NY=20
                  13827</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080=20
                  size=3D2>607-751-7542</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
                  size=3D2>FAX 751-6198</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3D#000080=20
                  size=3D2><A=20
                  =
href=3D"mailto:michael.leach@lmco.com";>michael.leach@lmco.c</FONT><FONT=20
                  face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>om</A> =
</FONT></P>
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