EGR & charcoal canister stuff (needed?)

[vince@performancecarstereo.com (Vince Royer)]

No actually I have no AC.  I have the one canister in the passenger side
with the hose that connects it to the other canister in the drivers side,
and the hose that leads from there to the intake manifold.  My question is,
can I simply vent the gas vapours and plug the hole on the intake and remove
the whole system? Surely somebody has tried this through all the engine
swaps/whatnot.

Vince


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kellner [mailto:rfkellner@snet.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:02 AM
> To: Vince Royer
> Subject: Re: EGR & charcoal canister stuff (needed?)
>
>
> Vince,
>     If you have A/C there are basically three canisters in the
> fenders.  The
> one for the ac is referred to as the grenades.  It looks like a
> triangle of
> grenades.  It is located behind the windshield washer bottle in the
> passenger fender.  It is basically a vacuum reservoir for the
> A/C. You have
> one hose into it from a T, the other ends of the T go to the HVAC and the
> other end to the manifold for vacuum.  If your A/C has been removed then
> that is a whole discussion in it's self.
>     There is a canister in the passenger fender to collect gasoline fumes.
> There is a line form the tank to the canister.  Then one from
> this canister
> to the charcoal canister in the driver side fender.  Then, as you
> have seen
> the hoses from this canister to the intake.
>     Bentley has some good photos of theses systems and again, you have a
> slightly different set up than me because you have an EGR valve
> and I don't.
> Also, you may have a vacuum retard line to your distributor and I don't, I
> have one advance line. 85s are this way too because I have the one line
> distributor on my parts car.
> Rick Kellner
> 84 8v
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vince Royer" <vince@performancecarstereo.com>
> To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM
> Subject: EGR & charcoal canister stuff (needed?)
>
>
> > Just a thought for today:
> >
> > A buddy of mine has a Mazda B2200 and he built up a nice motor for it.
> > During the building process, he simplified everything as much
> as he could.
> > He removed all the emissions equipment from it, all the exhaust
> > recirculation stuff.  There were 3 big hoses going to a large unit up on
> top
> > of the carb.  He took it all off and plugged all the ends.  There were
> tons
> > of hoses that came out, and a couple little valves and the like.  He was
> > told that everything could come off of the motor with no
> problems.   After
> > it was all gone and the motor all built, the truck runs like
> never before.
> > He passes emissions tests with much better numbers than before,
> the truck
> > got a whole lot quieter and smoother, and has monstrous torque.
>  It seems
> > like the motor was just sucking a lot of exhaust instead of fresh air.
> >
> > Now for Scirocco content. (mandatory now I guess)
> >
> > Do our motors absolutely need all the crap that's hooked up to
> them?  I'm
> > mostly talking about my 1.7 8V.  It has the super-basic CIS. No
> ox sensor
> > either, Canadian car.  I understand that the fuel vapours have to go
> > somewhere, but I mean... if you were building up a tube framed full race
> > spec car, what would you do?  Would you have to keep all the evaporative
> > emissions canisters and lines?  Or could you just vent it out?
> >
> > I must say I don't really know how it all works, so I can't decide if it
> > would work without it.  What's the bare minimum you can run an 8V with?
> I'm
> > trying to get my engine compartment as simple as possible
> without going to
> > carbs.  I want to hide all the wiring and loom it all up better.  My
> battery
> > is already in the back so it looks much better already.
> >
> > Vince
> >
> >
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