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Sounds like the KS control box is shorting out, and I don't now how to =
test it. The ground circuit for the for the ignigition and fuel pump run =
through the KS box.=20

Brian
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: L F=20
  To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:48 PM
  Subject: help. again.


  The '87 16V is letting me down.

  It's still dying momentarily, only now the "momentarily" is long =
enough to force me to the side of the road for 30 seconds.  It still =
fires right back up after and runs as if nothing happened (runs for 10 =
seconds or 5 days.....).

  Symptoms:   ignition goes dead for from 1/10 second to 30 seconds.  =
Tach instantly drops to zero, even though the motor is still turning =
over 3000 rpm as it coasts to a stop.  All other electrical items seem =
to be unaffected (lights, radio, voltmeter and other gauges, etc.all =
work the whole time)   It's random; every three or four days or so it =
will have a fit of this frustrating behavior.  Fuel flow seems normal as =
it usually backfires slightly when the ignition kicks back on.....

  I've re-cleaned all the grounds in the engine compartment. (even =
though it acted completely different when the grounds were bad)
  Installed new fuel pump relay, just in case.
  Installed new Hall affect sender.
  Installed new coil.
  Installed new ignition control unit/module.
  Checked and cleaned all connections in engine compartment.
  Diagnosed knock sensor unit. (no reported faults)
  Battery and alternator are good (consistent 13 - 14 volts)
  New ignition switch. (wiggling the key does not cause the dying)
  Fuel tank level has no discernable affect, (full or near empty).
  Can happen immediately after start-up, cold or warm, or after 20 =
minutes of driving.

  I'm getting desperate.  (Desperate enough to drive my Chevy van to =
work the last few days....)

  Someone on this list has an idea that I haven't been able to think =
of.....and one of those ideas will be IT!

  Larry
  sandiego16v
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds like the KS control box is =
shorting out, and=20
I don't now how to test it. The ground circuit for the for the =
ignigition and=20
fuel pump run through the KS box. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Drocco16v@netzero.net href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net";>L =
F</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 12, =
2002 8:48=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> help. again.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The '87 16V is letting me =
down.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's still dying momentarily, only =
now the=20
  "momentarily" is long enough to force me to the side of the road for =
30=20
  seconds.&nbsp; It still fires right back up after and runs as if =
nothing=20
  happened (runs for 10 seconds or 5 days.....).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Symptoms:&nbsp;&nbsp; ignition goes =
dead for from=20
  1/10 second to 30 seconds.&nbsp; Tach instantly drops to zero, even =
though the=20
  motor is still turning over 3000 rpm as it coasts to a stop.&nbsp; All =
other=20
  electrical items seem to be unaffected (lights, radio, voltmeter and =
other=20
  gauges, etc.all work the whole time)&nbsp;&nbsp; It's random; every =
three or=20
  four days or so it will have a fit of this frustrating behavior.&nbsp; =
Fuel=20
  flow seems normal as it usually backfires slightly when the ignition =
kicks=20
  back on.....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've re-cleaned all the grounds in =
the engine=20
  compartment. (even though it acted completely different when the =
grounds were=20
  bad)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Installed new fuel pump relay, just =
in=20
  case.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Installed new Hall affect =
sender.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Installed new coil.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Installed new ignition control=20
  unit/module.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Checked and cleaned all connections =
in engine=20
  compartment.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diagnosed knock sensor unit. (no =
reported=20
  faults)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Battery and alternator are good =
(consistent 13 -=20
  14 volts)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New ignition switch. (wiggling the =
key does not=20
  cause the dying)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fuel tank level has no discernable =
affect, (full=20
  or near empty).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can happen immediately after =
start-up, cold or=20
  warm, or after 20 minutes of driving.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm getting desperate.&nbsp; =
(Desperate enough to=20
  drive my Chevy van to work the last few days....)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Someone on this list has an idea that =
I haven't=20
  been able to think of.....and one of those ideas will be =
IT!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>sandiego16v</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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