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kinda OT: do you lose gas shutting the car off for less than 2mins?
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any time you are sitting still you are getting 0 mileage, so it is in fact better to do so with the engine off. that doesnt mean start cutting 'er off at every red light, because your starter/battery wouldnt last more than a few months of that abuse, not to mention that there may not be enough time between red lights for your alternator to properly bring the battery back to its full state of change... then you'll be the one everyone is honking at, heh.
Al
Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
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From: Robbie Cotner
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:45 AM
Subject: kinda OT: do you lose gas shutting the car off for less than 2 mins?
Hey, I have been thinking about this in the back of my mind for years, but I figured I'd ask you guys. I've been told several times by people that it does NOT save gas to shut off your engine while sitting still (idling at stop light, etc) unless you will be sitting there for more than 2 mins. That could make sense to me on some cars with hard starting engines, but I've always thought that didn't make sense and that you WOULD save gas, even just shutting it off for a few seconds. Doesn't the starter do the work to restart? I don't think the computer tells the injectors to dump more fuel in during start up. I also know that the Honda Electric hybrid car(can't rememer name now) automatically shuts off WHENEVER you come to 0 mph, and then restarts when you hit the gas. So I assume you save gas in at least that instance. I guess it could get complicated like if the electricity your starter drains is made up by the alternator charging more which would drag the engine
Rob
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>any time you are sitting still you are getting 0
mileage, so it is in fact better to do so with the engine off. that doesnt mean
start cutting 'er off at every red light, because </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>your starter/battery wouldnt last more than a few months of that abuse,
not to mention that there may not be enough time between red lights for your
alternator to properly bring the battery back to its full state of change...
then you'll be the one everyone is honking at, heh.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN<BR>87 Rieger GTO
Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)<BR>86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco
GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)<BR>87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k,
0 rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels :)<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> kinda OT: do you lose gas
shutting the car off for less than 2 mins?</DIV>
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<P>Hey, I have been thinking about this in the back of my mind for years, but
I figured I'd ask you guys. I've been told several times by people that
it does NOT save gas to shut off your engine while sitting still (idling at
stop light, etc) unless you will be sitting there for more than 2 mins.
That could make sense to me on some cars with hard starting engines, but I've
always thought that didn't make sense and that you WOULD save gas, even just
shutting it off for a few seconds. Doesn't the starter do the work to
restart? I don't think the computer tells the injectors to dump more
fuel in during start up. I also know that the Honda Electric hybrid
car(can't rememer name now) automatically shuts off WHENEVER you come to 0
mph, and then restarts when you hit the gas. So I assume you save gas in
at least that instance. I guess it could get complicated like if the
electricity your starter drains is made up by the alternator charging more
which would drag the engine
<P>Rob</P>
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