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Patrick:
Aside from the obvious that the ratios I mentioned are all for the 020 =
gearbox and will definitely fit...
As far as cost, I personally know of NO scrapyard that will let you =
dismantle a gearbox that they can sell for >$200 so you can have two =
gears for $15!
Dan
PS. I don't understand how a guy that is so computer savvy can't find =
spell check.

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ATS - Patrick Bureau=20
  To: Dan Bubb ; j m ; Julie Macfarlane ; amalventano1@comcast.net ; =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:33 AM
  Subject: RE: hi all new here


  http://www.emsport.org/Gears.html states the audi 4K to be 0.83

  Now I searched etka

  Audi 4000 1987  Tranny Code 2P   Part # 013311159E -  Z=3D28/35 5th =
gear (0.80)
  Audi 4000 1987 Tranny Code ABV Part # 093311159C - Z=3D25/39 5th Gear =
(0.64)
  Scirocco 2Y/AGB 5th Gear Part # 020311159D           - Z=3D31/34 5th =
Gear (0.91)
  Scirocco 4k/9a/acd/aug 5th Gear Part # 020311159K  - Z=3D42/47 5th =
Gear(0.89)

  So unless a tranny gear froma an audi 4000 tranny 2P for some obscure =
reason cannot be used, looks like this is yet another source for a 5th =
tall gear


  As for autotech sure if ytou have 200+ to spend, scrap yard will =
charge little less than 10-15$ for the gear. (of course you have to =
dismentle one..

  Patrick
    -----Original Message-----
    From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Bubb
    Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:09 AM
    To: j m; Julie Macfarlane; amalventano1@comcast.net; =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org
    Subject: Re: hi all new here


    The 4K 5th is .89. Available gears that will fit are .85; .80; .76; =
.75; .71.
    The Autotech kits are not a huge rape if you want new parts. Gears =
from the dealer are around $200 and the special little screw that always =
needs to be replaced is $28. There site gives some info on installation.
    Why don't you call them and ask the ratios available?
    Dan
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: j m=20
      To: Julie Macfarlane ; amalventano1@comcast.net ; =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
      Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:26 PM
      Subject: Re: hi all new here


      wish i could but something about this car makes the pedal go to =
the floor,=20

      thinking about doing some conversion to make the fifth gear =
taller,   autotech sells a kit but it seem similar to the stock gearing =
in a FF or Fn box, or is thier a taller gearign that i can use, to givce =
me the most econiomcal fifth and yet still keep the traffic light to =
traffic light ratio of this 4K.  so how hard would it be to rip it out =
of one and install it in my box in my car =20

      slower is more dangerous, the faster you go the slower things look =
and the smoother traffic and my car flows. They way of "zen" driving it =
is fast and reactions are smooth just ability to see the road and =
traffic lanes form before it actually does=20



        Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:=20

        Drive slower?

        julie


        >From: j m=20
        >To: Allyn , scirocco-l@scirocco.org
        >Subject: Re: hi all new here
        >Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:24:46 -0800 (PST)
        >
        >
        > in the immortal words of Yoda, we shall see, we shall see."
        >cant commit in a short notice to anything
        >gotta do something about the highway, she whines hooribly at =
110mph and i=20
        >nee dbetter mileage incase of road trips,
        >suggestions???
        > Allyn wrote: In other words, you have the=20
        >scirocco, now come to cincy and see the rest of em!Al ----- =
Original=20
        >Message ----- From: j m To: Allyn ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org =
Sent:=20
        >Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:34 PMSubject: Re: hi all new here
        >
        >when and what is cincy and why is it burning? you need a dr?
        >
        > Allyn wrote: So the burning question is...=20
        >are you coming to cincy?Al Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
        >87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)
        >86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
        >87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, =
original clutch,=20
        >driveshafts, wheels :)
        >----- Original Message ----- From: j m To: =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org Sent:=20
        >Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:41 PMSubject: hi all new here
        >
        >hi all i am new to this here mailing list,
        >
        >i would like to introduce myself first off, i recently =
purchased a=20
        >champagne 1987 scirocco 16v from some dude in my area. it has a =
stock=20
        >interior stock wheels. the trans is a 4K (close ratio) it has a =
manual=20
        >rack, a/c is there but not hooked up. There are bilstiens =
sports and h &=20
        >r sport springs. It also has the upper neuspeed bar power =
module, an race=20
        >down-pipe with silencer box going to a auto-tech back half. it =
has euro=20
        >headlights on it and a rear euro bumper. is there anythign else =
i need to=20
        >worry about?
        >
        >thanks
        >
        >
        >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Patrick:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aside from the obvious that the ratios =
I mentioned=20
are all for the 020 gearbox and will definitely fit...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as cost, I personally know of NO =
scrapyard=20
that will let you dismantle a gearbox that they can sell for &gt;$200 so =
you can=20
have two gears for $15!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS. I don't understand how a guy that =
is so=20
computer savvy can't find&nbsp;spell check.</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dpbureau@attbi.com href=3D"mailto:pbureau@attbi.com";>ATS - =
Patrick=20
  Bureau</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djdbubb@ix.netcom.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:jdbubb@ix.netcom.com";>Dan Bubb</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dscirocco21117@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco21117@yahoo.com";>j m</A> ;=20
  <A title=3Djuliemac57@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:juliemac57@hotmail.com";>Julie=20
  Macfarlane</A> ; <A title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>amalventano1@comcast.net</A> =
; <A=20
  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 15, 2002 =
7:33=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: hi all new =
here</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><A =
href=3D"http://www.emsport.org/Gears.html";><FONT=20
  face=3DArial =
size=3D2>http://www.emsport.org/Gears.html</FONT></A><FONT=20
  face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;<SPAN =
class=3D169172112-15032002>states the audi=20
  4K to be 0.83</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>Now I searched =
etka</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>Audi 4000 1987&nbsp; Tranny Code =
2P&nbsp;&nbsp; Part=20
  # 013311159E -&nbsp; Z=3D28/35 5th gear =
(0.80)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>Audi 4000 1987 Tranny Code ABV Part # =
093311159C -=20
  Z=3D25/39 5th Gear (0.64)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>Scirocco 2Y/AGB 5th Gear Part #=20
  020311159D&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-=20
  Z=3D31/34 5th Gear (0.91)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>Scirocco 4k/9a/acd/aug 5th Gear Part #=20
  020311159K&nbsp; - Z=3D42/47 5th =
Gear(0.89)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>So unless a tranny gear froma an audi 4000 =
tranny 2P=20
  for some obscure reason cannot be used, looks like this is yet another =
source=20
  for a 5th tall gear</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002>As for autotech sure if ytou have 200+ to =
spend,=20
  scrap yard will charge little less than 10-15$ for the gear. (of =
course you=20
  have to dismentle one..</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D169172112-15032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D169172112-15032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Patrick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On=20
    Behalf Of </B>Dan Bubb<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 15, 2002 6:09=20
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> j m; Julie Macfarlane; amalventano1@comcast.net;=20
    scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: hi all new=20
    here<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 4K 5th is .89. Available gears =
that will=20
    fit are .85; .80; .76; .75; .71.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Autotech kits are not a huge =
rape if you=20
    want new parts. Gears from the dealer are around $200 and the =
special little=20
    screw that always needs to be replaced is $28. There site gives some =
info on=20
    installation.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why don't you call them and ask the =
ratios=20
    available?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dan</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dscirocco21117@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco21117@yahoo.com";>j=20
      m</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djuliemac57@hotmail.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:juliemac57@hotmail.com";>Julie Macfarlane</A> ; <A=20
      title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>amalventano1@comcast.net</A> ; =
<A=20
      title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, =
2002 11:26=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: hi all new =
here</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <P>wish i could but something about this car makes the pedal go to =

      the&nbsp;floor,=20
      <P>thinking about doing some conversion to make the fifth gear=20
      taller,&nbsp;&nbsp; autotech sells a kit but it seem similar to =
the stock=20
      gearing in a FF or Fn box, or is thier a taller gearign that i can =
use, to=20
      givce me the most econiomcal fifth and yet still keep the traffic =
light to=20
      traffic light ratio of this 4K.&nbsp;&nbsp;so how hard would it be =
to rip=20
      it out of one and install it in&nbsp;my box in my car&nbsp;=20
      <P>slower is more dangerous, the faster you go the slower things =
look and=20
      the smoother traffic and my car flows. They way of "zen" driving =
it is=20
      fast and reactions are smooth just ability to see the road and =
traffic=20
      lanes form before it actually does=20
      <P>
      <P>
      <P>&nbsp; <B><I>Julie Macfarlane =
&lt;juliemac57@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B>=20
      wrote:=20
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff =
2px solid">Drive=20
        slower?<BR><BR>julie<BR><BR><BR>&gt;From: j m=20
        <SCIROCCO21117@YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt;To: Allyn =
<AMALVENTANO1@COMCAST.NET>,=20
        scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt;Subject: Re: hi all new =
here<BR>&gt;Date:=20
        Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:24:46 -0800 (PST)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; in =
the=20
        immortal words of Yoda, we shall see, we shall see."<BR>&gt;cant =
commit=20
        in a short notice to anything<BR>&gt;gotta do something about =
the=20
        highway, she whines hooribly at 110mph and i <BR>&gt;nee dbetter =
mileage=20
        incase of road trips,<BR>&gt;suggestions???<BR>&gt; Allyn=20
        <AMALVENTANO1@COMCAST.NET>wrote: In other words, you have the=20
        <BR>&gt;scirocco, now come to cincy and see the rest of em!Al =
-----=20
        Original <BR>&gt;Message ----- From: j m To: Allyn ;=20
        scirocco-l@scirocco.org Sent: <BR>&gt;Wednesday, March 13, 2002 =
4:34=20
        PMSubject: Re: hi all new here<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;when and what is =
cincy and=20
        why is it burning? you need a dr?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Allyn=20
        <AMALVENTANO1@COMCAST.NET>wrote: So the burning question is...=20
        <BR>&gt;are you coming to cincy?Al Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS),=20
        USN<BR>&gt;87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco =

        #6)<BR>&gt;86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', =
rocco=20
        #7)<BR>&gt;87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 =
rattles,=20
        original clutch, <BR>&gt;driveshafts, wheels :)<BR>&gt;----- =
Original=20
        Message ----- From: j m To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org Sent:=20
        <BR>&gt;Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:41 PMSubject: hi all new=20
        here<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;hi all i am new to this here mailing=20
        list,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;i would like to introduce myself first off, =
i=20
        recently purchased a <BR>&gt;champagne 1987 scirocco 16v from =
some dude=20
        in my area. it has a stock <BR>&gt;interior stock wheels. the =
trans is a=20
        4K (close ratio) it has a manual <BR>&gt;rack, a/c is there but =
not=20
        hooked up. There are bilstiens sports and h &amp; <BR>&gt;r =
sport=20
        springs. It also has the upper neuspeed bar power module, an =
race=20
        <BR>&gt;down-pipe with silencer box going to a auto-tech back =
half. it=20
        has euro <BR>&gt;headlights on it and a rear euro bumper. is =
there=20
        anythign else i need to <BR>&gt;worry=20
        =
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