misinformation rides again!!!!

[mpeters6@rochester.rr.com (Marc Peterson)]

DOH...you're right
ok, here is a source on some of the current AWD systems.

http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/lancia/58/technical_school/traction/t
ech_traction_4wd_21.htm

"Since the late 1998, Volkswagen replaced the viscous-coupling Syncro system
with a new system called "4motion". First shown in Audi TT and Golf 4motion,
the new system uses a multi-plate clutch center differential developed by a
Swedish company, Haldex, and computer software from the Austria 4WD
specialist Steyr-Daimler-Puch. At this moment, it is only offered for the
transverse-engined Golf IV platform, but there is no technical reason
prevents it from applying to Audi's longitudinal-engined models."

But check out the bottom:

"Note: "4motion" is not equal to Haldex system. Volkswagen also use
"4motion" to represent the Torsen-LSD system used by Passat. Therefore,
"4motion" is actually a marketing nameplate instead of indicating the
mechanical design."

Is this more confusing or less confusing?

Marc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Tovsen" <nealtovsen@yahoo.com>
To: "Marc Peterson" <mpeters6@rochester.rr.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: misinformation rides again!!!!


> Eh?? Marc, I'm not saying I doubt you ('cause I don't
> know myself), but the quotes you're using as "proof"
> say nothing about which system is used in which car...
>
> Neal
>
>
> --- Marc Peterson <mpeters6@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> > All tranverse engine mounted AWD VAG cars used the
> > Haldex system, MKIV's,
> > S3, TT, etc.  Promise.
> > From haldex.com:
> > "In 1998, the [traction systems] Division started
> > serial deliveries to its
> > first customer, the VW-Group. So far the system has
> > been introduced on VW
> > Golf 4 Motion and VW Bora 4 Motion, Audi TT Quattro
> > and Audi A3 Quattro as
> > well as on Skoda and Seat."
> >
> >
> > All longitudinal engine mounted AWD VAG cars use the
> > quattro system.
> > Promise.
> > From vwvortex.com:
> > "The 4Motion system in the Passat (which is the same
> > torsen system found in
> > the Audi A4, A6 and A8 Quattro) is seamless and only
> > barely makes itself
> > known in low speed parking maneuvers as a very
> > slight vibration through the
> > steering wheel (same thing happens in the Audi A4
> > and A6 with Quattro as
> > well)."
> >
> > I'm not making this stuff up guys...
> >
> > Marc
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Night Shadow" <soltwede@privateI.com>
> > To: "Christian Els" <tiAn@usiw.net>
> > Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "Marc Peterson"
> > <mpeters6@rochester.rr.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: misinformation rides again!!!!
> >
> >
> > > > While we're on the topic, I have yet to hear any
> > definitive argument
> > > > distinguishing "Quattro" from "Synchro" from
> > "4-Motion" -- all those
> > names
> > > > are just that -- names.
> > >
> > > Quttro and Synchro are very very similar, only
> > difference is Synchro used
> > > a Viscus center coupling instead of a center diff
> > like Quattro did.
> > > 4-Motion is totally different, VW bought it from
> > some Norwiegan or Swedish
> > > company...totaly different than Quattro.  I would
> > LOVE to find where Marc
> > > got his information that the TT uses 4-motion and
> > the Passat is Quattro.
> > > To my knowledge this is totally wrong.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eric
> > > Northglenn, CO
> > >
> > > 76 Honda CB400F Super Sport
> > > 80 Scirocco (Parts car again, no more DD duty)
> > > 81 Scirocco S (2.0 16v swap and complete
> > restoration in progress)
> > > 81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (THE NEW RIDE)
> > > 91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical
> > rebuild in progress)
> > > 00 Golf GL TDI (Katy is driving this for now)
> > >
> > > "For Aquarians, the physics of loopholes is a
> > perfectly valid science."
> > > -Kelli Fox
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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