stupid Germans ..... was : RE: For the D&D crew

[nealtovsen@yahoo.com (Neal Tovsen)]

Don't get too worried about it, Dirk.

The problem with symbols is that they can mean
different things to different people.

If you think the flag symbolizes slavery (some people
do) and you proudly fly it for that reason (sadly,
some people do), then you can expect some very nasty
feedback from myself and many other people around the
world.

If you think the flag symbolizes other things such as
freedom or heritage (some people do), and you proudly
fly it for those reasons (some people do), then I and
other people might not mind.

The problem comes when someone assumes that the
Confederate flag means only slavery (some people do),
and automatically assume anyone flying it must be
pro-slavery (alas, some people do).

No matter where you fit in above, it /is/ a
significant part of US history whether you're proud of
it or not!

Neal

--- Dirk Schneider <SCIROCCO2@t-online.de> wrote:
> Until I was told by some list members I wasn't aware
> either that the
> Rebel-flag is considered offensive and negative for
> most US people.
> I have to admit that it also was just a "cool
> american flag" for me too
> before I was told that in fact it is not.
> 
> Most of us Germans are of the ( wrong ) opinion this
> flag symbolizes the 
> "good old wildwest adventures" of the admired USA 
> that we all know out of so many movies.
> 
> Please don't be too angry with the people here who
> use this flag, 
> it's just that they don't know the real historic
> background.
> 
> Thanks !
> Dirk
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Josh Hignight" <Josh.Hignight@phoenix.edu>
> To: "'Dirk Schneider'" <Scirocco@t-online.de>;
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:09 PM
> Subject: 
> 
> ACK! 
> I never knew VW made a
> Georgia/Florida/Alabama/Carolina edition
> Scirocco!?!?
> 
> Scary...  :P
> 
> Joshua Hignight
> Student Services/Technical Services
> New Mexico Campus
> (505) 821-4800
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SCIROCCO2@t-online.de
> [mailto:SCIROCCO2@t-online.de]
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:21 PM
> To: Jeffrey Lowe; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: For the D&D crew
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > rebel flag. But now that I recall, I actually
> remember
> > seeing a German Scirocco with a Rebel flag front
> > license plate two weeks ago. Basically the whole
> world
> > has gone silly!
> 
> U.S. flags are popular on german Sciroccos.
> http://www.scirocco2.de/gross_39.jpg
> 
> most people here love the USA but have no exact idea
> what the certain flags
> stand for.
> ( or maybe they do ? )
> 
> 
> Greets
> Dirk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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=====
~Neal

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