www.sciroccoandimpreza.org [was RE: 6spd tranny?]

[mpeters6@rochester.rr.com (Marc Peterson)]

Interesting comparison between impreza and scirocco developing here.

Company imports base model, does ok, has underground following.  Company
decided to import high hp model, does really well, becomes wildly popular.

15 years down the road - the early models are the keepers...
Marc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Tovsen" <nealtovsen@yahoo.com>
To: "Jason Adams" <roclist@accessconsulting.ca>; "Scott F. Williams"
<sfwilliams@comcast.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: www.sciroccoandimpreza.org [was RE: 6spd tranny?]


> > Do the imprezza's really have any soul? You know
> > what I mean? Fahrvergnugen!
>
> Hell, yeah! Actually that's the sole (soul?) reason I
> bought the damn thing. IMHO, most of the new VAG
> products, while still great cars, lost the soul.
>
> The WRX, and especially the older style 2.5RS, are NOT
> built for style. They didn't waste money or inflate
> the price of the car on froo-froo leather seats,
> individual climate control, or sunroofs that close
> automatically. That's the trade off. The Golf/Jetta
> was WAY more refined in terms of interior quality,
> creature comfort features, ride quality, and body
> fit/finish. In contrast, the only superbly built parts
> of a 2.5RS/WRX are the seat bolsters, steering wheel,
> shift knob, pedal placement, engine, suspension, and
> drivetrain. And those things are worlds above the VW
> stuff (well, VW does make nice engines). The WRX is
> not available with a sunroof because Subaru wanted a
> stiffer chassis! The paint is soft, the body develops
> rattles/squeaks, and the dashboard and center console
> are kinda cheap, but the car is just a blast to drive.
> That's what gives it "soul", right? Same with the
> body. It's purpose-built. Though it was ripped off an
> called "rice" long before it became popular in this
> country, those scoops and wings were actually put
> there for a purpose, not just styling queues. Besides,
> in 1975, who thought hatchbacks were good looking?
>
> Just my $.02. Take one for a drive and see for
> yourself.
>
> Neal
>
>
> --- Jason Adams <roclist@accessconsulting.ca> wrote:
> > okay you subaru folks...
> >
> > Do the imprezza's really have any soul? You know
> > what I mean? Fahrvergnugen!
> >
> > I'm torn, I think the subaru engineering is good,
> > but the audi's just look
> > better to me, I'm going to be replacing my Chevrolet
> > Z71 4x4 in a year or
> > two and I know I want an AWD platform, So where I'm
> > at now is wait 2 years,
> > buy a 2002 Audi A4 2.8 or a 2003 Imprezza 2.5. Any
> > regrets going to subaru
> > vs audi?
> >
> > Those audi's are just too sexy... no offense guys
> > but I think the imprezza's
> > got a case of the ugly's, *ducks*, don't get me
> > wrong, I think the most
> > beautiful part of the car lyes under the sheet
> > metal, I know I could learn
> > to love the looks of the imprezza given time...
> >
> > jason adams
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>
> > To: "Neal Tovsen" <nealtovsen@yahoo.com>;
> > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:37 AM
> > Subject: RE: www.sciroccoandimpreza.org [was RE:
> > 6spd tranny?]
> >
> >
> > > That is a very wacky idea, Neal. However, I can
> > say without any hesitation
> > > that the concept makes sense. With VW leaving the
> > enthusiast market by and
> > > large, I see scores of Dubbers heading to Subaru
> > -the Impreza range in
> > > particular, of course. I'm a VW man first and
> > foremost, however, this new
> > > cars has grabbed a hold of my passions in a way
> > that no non-VW has ever
> > > before.
> > >
> > > P.S. I think that a vwandimpreza.org would be even
> > more relevant. Again,
> > > there is a large (and growing) cross over crowd.
> > > --
> > > Scott F. Williams
> > > NJ Scirocco nut
> > > '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
> > > Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
> > > Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
> > > ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
> > >
> > > Check out our rally team's website!
> > > http://www.usrallyteam.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf
> > Of Neal Tovsen
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:07 AM
> > > > To: Scott F. Williams; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: www.sciroccoandimpreza.org [was RE:
> > 6spd tranny?]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Scott F. Williams
> > > > > NJ Scirocco nut
> > > > > '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
> > > >
> > > > So you got one??? Cool! I'm going to start a new
> > club
> > > > called www.sciroccoandimpreza.org. You're at
> > least our
> > > > third member!
> > > >
> > > > Pics? Thoughts? Imprezzions? :)
> > > >
> > > > Here's mine:
> > > > <http://gulfcoastautocrossers.com/pict2008.jpg>
> > > >
> > > > Neal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
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