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if i remember correctly, when you turn one wheel by hand, the other one =
should turn opposite. unless of course you have a limited slip in =
there. if you have somebody else hole the opposite wheel while you turn =
the other one while the car is in gear, you won't be able to turn the =
wheel. the reason the opp. wheel turns the opposite way is due to the =
natue of an "open" differential. don't worry about it, if the wheels =
turn when you put it in gear and the engine running.... GO ENJOY =
YOURSELF! have a good night!
corey
88 16v
82 green machine (mafe it's virgin cruise tonight!!!!!!)=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Robbie Cotner=20
To: onesixv@juno.com=20
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 7:04 PM
Subject: for eric! updated for anyone! Re: new clutch, doesn't engage =
or something- help!
I can push it up to just past level, and then it moves no more (by =
finger). Did you get the post that spoke of the fact that the engine =
turns the wheels(both in same direction btw), but spinning one wheel =
still just spins the other in the opposite direction. My car is an '83 =
8v with a 2H trans. I just reattached the clutch cable- it does pull =
the trans lever past the semi-level point I got to by hand. I turned =
engine with clutch out, and it turns wheels. push clutch in, and it =
doesn't turn the wheels. Is it just a common Scirocco thing to have the =
wheels just turn each-other oppositely? I swear they used to NOT. =
thanks so much-=20
Rob=20
Eric L Ellis <onesixv@juno.com> wrote:=20
You should be able to lift the lever by hand to a point just above =
level and then meet resistance that you can't continue past. If =
resistance is constantly easy enough to raise by hand to 30 degrees+ =
above level, the problem could be:
1. You perhaps forgot to install the release plate in the pressure =
plate
2. The center of the release plate is gone allowing the release rod =
to pass through and it's stuck inside
3. The release rod is somewhere around the car 'cause it slid out =
when the transmission was out.
What does your clutch pedal do?
The issue with the splines:
If you have a 16v that someone has changed the transmission to an =
early 8v (pre '93?) the splines on the 8v transmission input shaft are =
smaller than the splined hole in the 16v disk. This is normally =
accompanied by a grinding noise.
Eric
"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
AOL IM: OneSixV
http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Robbie Cotner =
<robw_z@yahoo.com> writes:
It seems that there is a little resistance. How much should =
there be? I didn't check the splines but it was a Sachs clutch and I =
assumed it worked, it didn't seem to have problems-=20
Rob=20
Is there resistance on the release lever?
Did you test fit the disk on the splines of the input shaft?
Eric
"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
AOL IM: OneSixV
http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Robbie Cotner =
<robw_z@yahoo.com> writes:
Hey all, please help me! After installing a new =
clutch/pressure plate(pretty sure I did everything right), I can't get =
the clutch to engage the engine. The front is up in the air, I turned =
the pass wheel and it kind of turned the engine a little, then i heard =
kind of a konk, snap and it stopped turning. Turned out the drivers =
side CV shaft snapped because I rebuilt it wrong. So I replaced it =
ASAP, and when in gear(tried most of them), spinning the tire just turns =
the other tire in the opposite direction, and doesn't turn the engine at =
all. I thought the clutch cable might be screwed up(actually I knew it =
was) so I replaced it, still doesn't turn the engine. I disconnected =
the cable at the tranny to be sure that the clutch lever was fully =
engaged, still NO turning of the engine, just spins the opposite wheel =
in the opposite direction. Please help! I can't think of what could've =
gone wrong...
Rob
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if i remember correctly, when you turn =
one wheel by=20
hand, the other one should turn opposite. unless of course you =
have a=20
limited slip in there. if you have somebody else hole the opposite =
wheel=20
while you turn the other one while the car is in gear, you won't be able =
to turn=20
the wheel. the reason the opp. wheel turns the opposite way is due =
to the=20
natue of an "open" differential. don't worry about it, if the =
wheels turn=20
when you put it in gear and the engine running.... GO ENJOY =
YOURSELF! have=20
a good night!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>corey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>88 16v</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>82 green machine (mafe it's virgin =
cruise=20
tonight!!!!!!)</FONT> </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:robw_z@yahoo.com"; title=3Drobw_z@yahoo.com>Robbie =
Cotner</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:onesixv@juno.com"=20
title=3Donesixv@juno.com>onesixv@juno.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 29, 2002 =
7:04=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> for eric! updated for =
anyone!=20
Re: new clutch, doesn't engage or something- help!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P> I can push it up to just past level, and then it moves no =
more (by=20
finger). Did you get the post that spoke of the fact that the =
engine=20
turns the wheels(both in same direction btw), but spinning one wheel =
still=20
just spins the other in the opposite direction. My car is an '83 =
8v with=20
a 2H trans. I just reattached the clutch cable- it does =
pull the=20
trans lever past the semi-level point I got to by hand. I turned =
engine=20
with clutch out, and it turns wheels. push clutch in, and it =
doesn't=20
turn the wheels. Is it just a common Scirocco thing to have the =
wheels=20
just turn each-other oppositely? I swear they used to NOT. =
thanks=20
so much-=20
<P>Rob=20
<P><B><I>Eric L Ellis <onesixv@juno.com></I></B> wrote:=20
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<DIV>You should be able to lift the lever by hand to a point =
just above=20
level and then meet resistance that you can't continue past. =
If=20
resistance is constantly easy enough to raise by hand to 30 degrees+ =
above=20
level, the problem could be:</DIV>
<DIV>1. You perhaps forgot to install the release plate in the =
pressure=20
plate</DIV>
<DIV>2. The center of the release plate is gone allowing the release =
rod to=20
pass through and it's stuck inside</DIV>
<DIV>3. The release rod is somewhere around the car 'cause =
it slid out=20
when the transmission was out.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What does your clutch pedal do?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The issue with the splines:</DIV>
<DIV>If you have a 16v that someone has changed the transmission to =
an early=20
8v (pre '93?) the splines on the 8v transmission input shaft =
are=20
smaller than the splined hole in the 16v disk. This is normally =
accompanied by a grinding noise.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eric<BR>"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v";>http://www.geocities.com/=
blitzkrieg16v</A><BR>AOL=20
IM: OneSixV<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/onesixv";>http://www.geocities.com/onesix=
v</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Robbie Cotner <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:robw_z@yahoo.com";>robw_z@yahoo.com</A>> =
writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 10px">
<P> It seems that there is a little resistance. How =
much should=20
there be? I didn't check the splines but it was a Sachs =
clutch and I=20
assumed it worked, it didn't seem to have problems-=20
<P>Rob=20
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<DIV>Is there resistance on the release lever?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Did you test fit the disk on the splines of the input =
shaft?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eric<BR>"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v";>http://www.geocities.com/=
blitzkrieg16v</A><BR>AOL=20
IM: OneSixV<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/onesixv";>http://www.geocities.com/onesix=
v</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Robbie Cotner =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:robw_z@yahoo.com";>robw_z@yahoo.com</A>> =
writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 10px">
<P>Hey all, please help me! After installing a new=20
clutch/pressure plate(pretty sure I did everything right), I =
can't get=20
the clutch to engage the engine. The front is up in =
the=20
air, I turned the pass wheel and it kind of turned the engine =
a=20
little, then i heard kind of a konk, snap and it stopped=20
turning. Turned out the drivers side CV shaft snapped =
because I=20
rebuilt it wrong. So I replaced it ASAP, and when in =
gear(tried=20
most of them), spinning the tire just turns the other tire in =
the=20
opposite direction, and doesn't turn the engine at all. =
I=20
thought the clutch cable might be screwed up(actually I knew =
it was)=20
so I replaced it, still doesn't turn the engine. I =
disconnected=20
the cable at the tranny to be sure that the clutch lever was =
fully=20
engaged, still NO turning of the engine, just spins the =
opposite wheel=20
in the opposite direction. Please help! I can't =
think of=20
what could've gone wrong...</P>
<P>Rob</P>
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