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K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?



Chris-
  No problem, mate.
I DID some research, the most trustworthy type; first-hand,
up-close-and-personal.....I replaced my old, stock element with a new K&N.
And, as I said previously, my impression was....no change in my Scirocco.
YRMV.
(And, seriously...... what would you expect K&N to say about their
product? )

Larry   sandiego16V (still trundling along with the infamous K&N.....)


> Larry, not to harsh your gig but maybe you should do some research before
> you draw the conclusion that K&N filters do not offer nay improvement over
> stock. Im sure if you looked you would find some dyno results. K&N also
has
> some good data on the airflow through their filters vs stock. check em out
> <www.knfilters.com/facts.htm#RESULTS>
>
>
> >From: Eric L Ellis <onesixv@juno.com>
> >To: rocco16v@netzero.com
> >CC: Scramjet5@aol.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: Re: K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?
> >Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:31:30 -0400
> >
> >My reason for having two is to cut down tune-up time.  My thought is that
> >if you change your filter every 6 months, surely in that time you can
> >spare a total of 15 minutes to prep the alternate filter.
> >
> >I should back up on my K&N claims however.  When I changed to the K&N, I
> >also removed the plastic piece from the bottom of the cross member.  This
> >in itself would open airflow and add to the increase I noted earlier.
> >HOWEVER, a friend of mine (87 16v Scirocco) was late on the group K&N
> >craze and brought me his car and new K&N filter during a rain storm.  I
> >refused to crawl my fat ass under his car to take out the aforementioned
> >plastic piece but I did swap his filter and promised to complete the job
> >on a drier date.  He too noted the increase in throttle response even
> >with that piece in place.  I can attest to 12 people giving the K&N a
> >thumbs up over stock, 7 of those pertaining to VW's with box elements.  I
> >could see if they all paid $30 - $40 for their filter (You know how you
> >WANT something you pay good money for to work?), but I gave one to a
> >fellow Scirocco 16v owner and one to a VR6 Passat owner and both liked
> >the results.
> >
> >To Brian I will say this:  If you do NOT like the K&N after purchasing
> >it, I'll buy it from you.  Hell, you'd think I work for K&N with a
> >guarantee like that.
> >
> >Eric
> >"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
> >http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
> >AOL IM:  OneSixV
> >http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
> >
> >On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:17:18 -0700 "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com> writes:
> > > Eric-
> > >   One element, two elements, or ten....you still have to clean one
> > > every
> > > time.
> > > Without back-to-back dyno runs, what each of us is presenting are
> > > only
> > > impressions.  Your impression is that K&N offers improvements.  My
> > > impression is that it does not (and I should have stated it that way
> > > in my
> > > first post).
> > >
> > > Larry  sandiego16V
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sorry Larry, I disagree.  I noticed an immediate increase in
> > > throttle
> > > > response and quicker revs under load with my K&N.  And yes,
> > > considerably
> > > > more than a new stock paper filter.
> > > >
> > > > As far as the pain in cleaning and oiling the filter, buy two and
> > > have
> > > > one sitting in the garage ready to go.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > "Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
> > > > AOL IM:  OneSixV
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:17:52 -0700 "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
> > > writes:
> > > > > I've used both in my vehicles.
> > > > >  Stock is fine if you replace (a quick and easy job) every
> > > year.
> > > > > K&N's last forever but require tedious cleaning and re-oiling
> > > every
> > > > > two
> > > > > years or so.
> > > > >   K&N will NOT increase power over a new, stock element.
> > > > > Me?  I'd go with stock, even though my 16V has the K&N (a gift
> > > from
> > > > > young
> > > > > son).
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry  sandiego16V
> > > > >
> > > > > > HEY IM TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN GOING TO PEPBOYS AND PICKING
> > > UP
> > > > > THE K&NS
> > > > > OR GOING TO VW AND GETTING THE STOCK ONES... WHAT ARE THE PROS
> > > AND
> > > > > CONS
> > > > > > BRIAN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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