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There is no problem using a 5pt harness type child seat with a lap only
belt.  The lap belts are designed to keep an adult in place....I hardly
think the 35lb child and the 10lb seat could exert enough force on the belts
to make the system fail.

The basic problem with all Sciroccos and booster/5pt seats is that the seats
are just to damn big.  If you try to put it behind the drivers seat the
childs feet are so close to the seat that if there was an accident both legs
would be broken.  Also, you can't put them behind the driver cuz you can't
see them/slap them or pass em cookies.

Putting the seat behind the passenger works well and ALL 5pt harness seats
can be used with a simple lap belt and no tether.  (although with a Scirocco
I would rig a tether as opposed to trying to rig up some 3pt belt.) This
isn't something you want to try to rig up and "make" it work.

Your best for purchasing a seat is to buy the best one you can possibly
afford or to look in an upscale community near you for a Once Upon a Child
store and buy one used, We got out last Century Brevara....at $150 seat new
for about $35 last year in perfect condition.

My kids are Jake, 35lb 3yr old, Tyler 45lb 6 yr old and Nick a 63lb 8 year
old (no car seat required by law but we do use a nifty strap the makes the
3pt belts more comfortable and safer)

BcH 78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts


> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dave Ewing
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:27 PM
> To: Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: Car Seats (again)
>
>
>
> Actually, that is close but apparently (I am learning as I
> write this from
> my wife) there were two different types of the Futura 20/60.
> One with the
> fold down shield thingy that makes the harness only a 3 pt, and a
> non-shielded 5 pt that is safer and more sought after:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2041019562
>
> Expensive, I know but as we all know here on the list, once
> something goes
> out of production and are harder to find the more expensive
> they get!!  This
> is the one we have and it works great and doesn't look like a
> baby seat!
>
> Dave
>
> > >
> > > or something the title is: Fisher Price Futura 2060.  HTH!!
> > >
> >
> > to make things easy ;p
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2040327011
> >
> > (hehe, and no it's not mine ;p)
> >
> >
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>There is no problem using a 5pt harness type child =
seat with a lap only belt.&nbsp; The lap belts are designed to keep an =
adult in place....I hardly think the 35lb child and the 10lb seat could =
exert enough force on the belts to make the system fail.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The basic problem with all Sciroccos and booster/5pt =
seats is that the seats are just to damn big.&nbsp; If you try to put it =
behind the drivers seat the childs feet are so close to the seat that if =
there was an accident both legs would be broken.&nbsp; Also, you can't =
put them behind the driver cuz you can't see them/slap them or pass em =
cookies.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Putting the seat behind the passenger works well and =
ALL 5pt harness seats can be used with a simple lap belt and no =
tether.&nbsp; (although with a Scirocco I would rig a tether as opposed =
to trying to rig up some 3pt belt.) This isn't something you want to try =
to rig up and &quot;make&quot; it work.&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Your best for purchasing a seat is to buy the best one =
you can possibly afford or to look in an upscale community near you for =
a Once Upon a Child store and buy one used, We got out last Century =
Brevara....at $150 seat new for about $35 last year in perfect =
condition.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My kids are Jake, 35lb 3yr old, Tyler 45lb 6 yr old =
and Nick a 63lb 8 year old (no car seat required by law but we do use a =
nifty strap the makes the 3pt belts more comfortable and safer) =
</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BcH 78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org";>mailto:scirocco-l-admin@sci=
rocco.org</A>]On Behalf Of Dave Ewing</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:27 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Scirocco List</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: Car Seats (again)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Actually, that is close but apparently (I am =
learning as I </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; write this from</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; my wife) there were two different types of the =
Futura 20/60.&nbsp; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; One with the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; fold down shield thingy that makes the harness =
only a 3 pt, and a</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; non-shielded 5 pt that is safer and more sought =
after:</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2041019562";>=
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2041019562</A></FONT=
>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Expensive, I know but as we all know here on the =
list, once </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; something goes</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; out of production and are harder to find the =
more expensive </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; they get!!&nbsp; This</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; is the one we have and it works great and =
doesn't look like a </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; baby seat!</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dave</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; or something the title is: Fisher =
Price Futura 2060.&nbsp; HTH!!</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; to make things easy ;p</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2040327011";>=
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2040327011</A></FONT=
>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; (hehe, and no it's not mine ;p)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

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