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Bending My Swaybar...
- Subject: Bending My Swaybar...
- From: bhonnold@pac-cap.com (BcH)
- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:37:46 -0700
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Check your passenger side motor mount.........the test is easy....put your
floor jack under the oil pan and gently lift to see how much play there is
in the mount before the body starts lifing.
My guess is there is at least a 5mm sag in the mount.
You also might see how much if any flex there is in the header itself and if
there is a way to use the factory mount points on the rear of the block to
anchor the header.
BcH
78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Tyler P.
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: List (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Bending My Swaybar...
>
>
> I just replaced the front motor mount 4 months ago and put a
> new hd race
> rear motor mount in about 2 months ago. If heating the sway
> bar is bad,
> wont it be bad for it to be touching the header? And I
> thought metal would
> only lose that spring effect if it were cooled too quickly.
> Anyway, the header is a custom made job. Its a 4 into 1 and
> its still split
> into 4 where the sway bar goes across. I dunno, maybe there
> is a way of
> dropping the 2 insided sway bar mounts. I dont know how this
> would be done
> because they also support the A frame but if anybody has an
> idea let me
> know.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn c Meze [mailto:skerocdriver@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:36 PM
> To: ty@festf.org
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Bending My Swaybar...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:16:06 -0700 "Tyler P." <ty@festf.org> writes:
> > Hey all, I got my header and new exhaust system put on the roc this
> > weekend
> > (thanks Dave!) but one problem has cropped up. My front
> sway bar no
> > longer
> > fits on the car. Where the bend is in the middle regions of the
> > sway bar is
> > not big enough and it touches my header. I got the two ends bolted
> > down on
> > the A frames and got the driverside bolted down but the passenger
> > side of
> > will not bolt down. So right now I have 3 out of 4 mounting points
> > secured.
> > 1 option is to put my jack under the sway bar and jack it up into
> > position,
> > this would work but it would put a lot of stress on my header I
> > would think
> > and I'd probably start burning gaskets. Another option is to bend
> > my
> > swaybar a little more and move the rubber bushings accordingly, but
> > I don't
> > know what this would do for the structural integrity of the
> swaybar.
>
>
> Think of the swaybar as a spring. Its spring steel so if you
> heat it up
> to bend it, the integrity of the swaybar is lost. (IE, it will snap on
> the first HARD corner.) bending it cold will need ALOT of
> force for itto
> take the new shape and you will need at least 3 bends for it
> to be right.
>
>
> The other fix is to check out the motort mounts. If they're old and
> saggy, this could be the real solution to your prtoblem.
> Check the front
> mount and see if you can adjust it down (tilt the back of the
> motor up a
> little) which might give you clearance.
>
> Or, replace the header? Brand?
>
> Some people just let it go and letthe swaybar dent the header where it
> needs clearancing. The noise goes away eventually. (or so they said.)
>
>
> Shawn Méze
> 86' Jetta GLi 8V 88' Corvette -SS 30- 2001 SDR Solo2 Champion
> 82' Scirocco GTi -FSP 54- 79' "Project FSP Scirocco" 84'
> Scirocco 8V
> The Fastest, Quickest, Cleanest and best looking Scirocco(s) in all of
> San Diego!
> http://www.Geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1308/index.htm
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Check your passenger side motor mount.........the test =
is easy....put your floor jack under the oil pan and gently lift to see =
how much play there is in the mount before the body starts =
lifing.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My guess is there is at least a 5mm sag in the =
mount.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You also might see how much if any flex there is in =
the header itself and if there is a way to use the factory mount points =
on the rear of the block to anchor the header.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BcH</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org";>mailto:scirocco-l-admin@sci=
rocco.org</A>]On Behalf Of Tyler P.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:03 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: List (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: RE: Bending My Swaybar...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I just replaced the front motor mount 4 months =
ago and put a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> new hd race</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> rear motor mount in about 2 months ago. If =
heating the sway </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> bar is bad,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> wont it be bad for it to be touching the =
header? And I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> thought metal would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> only lose that spring effect if it were cooled =
too quickly.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Anyway, the header is a custom made job. =
Its a 4 into 1 and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> its still split</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> into 4 where the sway bar goes across. I =
dunno, maybe there </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> is a way of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> dropping the 2 insided sway bar mounts. I =
dont know how this </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> would be done</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> because they also support the A frame but if =
anybody has an </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> idea let me</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> know. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: Shawn c Meze [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:skerocdriver@juno.com";>mailto:skerocdriver@juno.com</A>]</=
FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:36 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: ty@festf.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: Re: Bending My Swaybar...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:16:06 -0700 "Tyler =
P." <ty@festf.org> writes:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > Hey all, I got my header and new exhaust =
system put on the roc this </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > weekend</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > (thanks Dave!) but one problem has cropped =
up. My front </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> sway bar no </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > longer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > fits on the car. Where the bend is in =
the middle regions of the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > sway bar is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > not big enough and it touches my =
header. I got the two ends bolted </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > down on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > the A frames and got the driverside bolted =
down but the passenger </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > side of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > will not bolt down. So right now I =
have 3 out of 4 mounting points </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > secured.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > 1 option is to put my jack under the sway =
bar and jack it up into </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > position,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > this would work but it would put a lot of =
stress on my header I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > would think</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > and I'd probably start burning =
gaskets. Another option is to bend </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > swaybar a little more and move the rubber =
bushings accordingly, but </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > I don't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > know what this would do for the structural =
integrity of the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> swaybar. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Think of the swaybar as a spring. Its spring =
steel so if you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> heat it up</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> to bend it, the integrity of the swaybar is =
lost. (IE, it will snap on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the first HARD corner.) bending it cold will =
need ALOT of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> force for itto</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> take the new shape and you will need at least 3 =
bends for it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> to be right.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The other fix is to check out the motort mounts. =
If they're old and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> saggy, this could be the real solution to your =
prtoblem. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Check the front</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> mount and see if you can adjust it down (tilt =
the back of the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> motor up a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> little) which might give you clearance. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Or, replace the header? Brand?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Some people just let it go and letthe swaybar =
dent the header where it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> needs clearancing. The noise goes away =
eventually. (or so they said.) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Shawn M=E9ze</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> 86' Jetta GLi 8V 88' Corvette -SS =
30- 2001 SDR Solo2 Champion</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> 82' Scirocco GTi -FSP 54- 79' =
"Project FSP Scirocco" 84' </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Scirocco 8V</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The Fastest, Quickest, Cleanest and best looking =
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