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<P>Hey the offset&nbsp;on my new wheels is ET35, but my old ones stuck out about a quarter of an inch more,&nbsp;what do you guys think? I havent put them on yet, I dont want to take any chances (on a low budget) with the tires rubbing.&nbsp; I will be running 195/50/15 if anyone forgot.....thanks for all your help!</P>
<P>&nbsp; --Bryson--<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Mash <TYPE53@YAHOO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Lil B 959 <LILB959@HOTMAIL.COM>, pbureau@attbi.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: suspension? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:18:37 -0800 (PST) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tartantulas have an offset of 38mm. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;All reputable wheels have the offset stamped on them, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;usually near the lug holes. looks like this: "ET38" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Jeebus, I hate html in email! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;HTH 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;--- Lil B 959 <LILB959@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
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<P>Hey Im at school now but when I get home tonight </P></DIV>&gt;Ill measure my wheels, the ones that are on there 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;stick pretty far out so im sure the offset is NOT 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;stock.&nbsp; The wheels i just got will sit in about a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;quarter of an inch more.&nbsp; I measured the offset 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;already, but I dont remember what it is.&nbsp; I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;already rolled the wheel wellls some, and I took out 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the front inner fender panels. Ill take a look at the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;shocks and springs and get back to you soon, Thanks 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;for your help
<P></P>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<P>&nbsp; --Bryson--<BR><BR></P>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;<PBUREAU@ATTBI.COM> 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "Chris M" <PB1113@HOTMAIL.COM>, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;<SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG> 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: suspension? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:46:49 -0600 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you mention the rims and need to check 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;offset, but you failed to mention 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;what rims you had (with offset) and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;what rims you whent too (with new 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;offset) that stopped rubbing. I Had 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;stock 13" tarantulas with offset I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;beleive of 35 to ATS Cups 15x7" 4x100 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;28SM. on 205/50/15 Khumo's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;ATS _ patrick 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Behalf Of Chris M 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:09 AM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: suspension? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Hi guys, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; I used to have big time rubbing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;problems with my old rims (Borbet M's). 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I found out the offset was wrong. I've 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;since replaced them with Enkei's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;with the proper offset and I have no 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;problems. Offset on these cars is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;crucial. Here's my setup that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;absolutely doesn't rub: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;H+R Sport Springs 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Boge Turbogas Struts 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Enkei RS5 16" Rims 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BFG 205-40-16 Euro TA's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Neuspeed Front Tie Bar 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Eurosport Rear Tie Bar 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I get a pretty good ride (feels more 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;like a mid-size in the way it takes 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tar-strips) and I can carry three 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;people easy. This is on a 16V too by the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;way. Sits nice and low and is very good 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;at AutoX. Easy on the pocket book 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;too. Anyways, hope the offset idea 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;helps.... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Chris M. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;82 8v Scirocco 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;88 16v Scirocco 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;70 MGB (wife's car) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;76 Chevy Laguna 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;http://www.geocities.com/vw16vmp3scirocco/ 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;pb1113@hotmail.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;<PBUREAU@ATTBI.COM> 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "_Scirocco Mailing List" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;<SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG> 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:46 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: suspension? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; you fit 3 people in a scirocco, 2 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;in front and one lying down in the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;back... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I never foudn anyone wanting to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;sit in the rear seats of a rocco 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; before...must be my age group 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;thing, old folks don't like to perform 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; gymnastics inside a car to get in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;or out.. hehe 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To answer your question, what 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;suspension do you have on there (shocks and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; springs)? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; My 8v is NOT lowered and it rubs 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;when I turn (due to 205/50's wide is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;better 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; eh), but a bit of rubbing occurs 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;when I take a texas dip (its a local road 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; thing) in the rear, or bad crack 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;in the road in the front will rub 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;slightly 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; on the edge of the whell well.. I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;am planning to fold the edges. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Patrick 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Lil B 959 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;4:52 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: suspension? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Hey I have an 87 8v rocco, i just 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;got some new wheels and some 195/50/15 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; sumitomo tires. The car was 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;lowered before I bought it and i like the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;look, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; but when I have more than one 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;person in the car the tires tend to rub over 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; bumps. When i have 3 people in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the car the rear tires will rub by just 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; speeding up, althought they are a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;55 series tire, so that might make a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; difference. Anyways, I like the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;look of the car and want it to stay low 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; i want to make the suspension 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;stiffer...i think whoever put the suspension 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; on to lower it may have cut the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;springs but i havent checked it out. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Anyone 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; with any ideas on a good 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;suspension (low and firm enough to autocross) for 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; pretty decent price please email 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;me back! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; --I am planning a throttle body 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and intake manifold and exhaust manifold 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; (4 into 2) upgrades...I will keep 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you all updated!! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; --Bryson-- 
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