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Thanks RGK. =20
That adjustable one -- is that for the crank or the cam?
Erik L
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Euroroc II=20
To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Begging For Help!!
Yup I have a broken one on my desk as a paper weight... The 16V Cam =
sprocket is a one piece unit unlike the 8V that uses a seperate woodruff =
key. Replacements can be found at some dismantelers but most will not =
want to seperate from the motor. I think I decided to replace with a new =
one from the dealer for approx $50. TT now makes an adjustable 16V unit =
so this may be a good time to upgrade, I regret not upgrading mine when =
I replaced it=20
-RGK-
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Erik LaCelle=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:34 AM
Subject: Begging For Help!!
Help!!
While putting a new timing belt on replacement motor for my 16v, I =
notice the keyway for the shaft key on the crankshaft is chewed away as =
is the key itself on the main pulley. This is the one piece cast iron =
pulley for the timing belt and first v-belt. The problem is the main =
pulley can now be put on in a number of different positions. Even if I =
align the timing marks and tighten the bolt in the end of the crank, I =
doubt the pulley would stay there since there is nothing to hold it from =
rotating.
Needless to say, I am completely BUMMED OUT (wanted to hear it run =
yesterday) as well as PISSED OFF at the guy I bought it from since he =
told me he heard it run and it ran well. I'm not sure how well any =
motor runs when the crankshaft is off 2-3 notches!
Has anyone seen this before? Does it happen often? Or was this =
engine the victim of a bad mechanic, perhaps over zealous with a large =
impact driver on the crankshaft bolt when the key wasn't lined up right?
I've thought about he possibility of drilling through the pulley =
into the crankshaft to insert a steel dowel or two to keep the pulley =
from rotating. Does anyone know what the shearing force is on the key? =
If the force is too great, I imagine a dowel would not last under the =
pressure (less surface area than a key). Any thoughts? Is there =
another fix besides replacing the crank and pulley?
Dejected in Rochester,=20
Erik L
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks RGK. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That adjustable one -- is that for the =
crank or the=20
cam?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik L</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dflaatr@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:flaatr@yahoo.com";>Euroroc =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, 2002 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Begging For =
Help!!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup I have a broken one on my desk as =
a paper=20
weight... The 16V Cam sprocket is a one piece unit unlike the 8V that =
uses a=20
seperate woodruff key. Replacements can be found at some=20
dismantelers but most will not want to seperate from the motor. I =
think I=20
decided to replace with a new one from the dealer for approx $50. TT =
now makes=20
an adjustable 16V unit so this may be a good time to upgrade, I regret =
not=20
upgrading mine when I replaced it </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-RGK-</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dlacelle@frontiernet.net =
href=3D"mailto:lacelle@frontiernet.net";>Erik=20
LaCelle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, =
2002 8:34=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Begging For =
Help!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Help!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While putting a new timing belt on =
replacement=20
motor for my 16v, I notice the keyway for the shaft key on the =
crankshaft is=20
chewed away as is the key itself on the main pulley. This is =
the one=20
piece cast iron pulley for the timing belt and first v-belt. =
The=20
problem is the main pulley can now be put on in a number of =
different=20
positions. Even if I align the timing marks and tighten the =
bolt in=20
the end of the crank, I doubt the pulley would stay there since =
there is=20
nothing to hold it from rotating.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Needless to say, I am completely =
BUMMED OUT=20
(wanted to hear it run yesterday) as well as PISSED OFF at the =
guy I=20
bought it from since he told me he heard it run and it ran =
well. I'm=20
not sure how well any motor runs when the crankshaft is off 2-3=20
notches!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone seen this before? =
Does it=20
happen often? Or was this engine the victim of a bad mechanic, =
perhaps=20
over zealous with a large impact driver on the crankshaft bolt when =
the key=20
wasn't lined up right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've thought about he possibility =
of drilling=20
through the pulley into the crankshaft to insert a steel dowel or =
two to=20
keep the pulley from rotating. Does anyone know what the =
shearing=20
force is on the key? If the force is too great, I imagine a =
dowel=20
would not last under the pressure (less surface area than a =
key). Any=20
thoughts? Is there another fix besides replacing the crank and =
pulley?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dejected in Rochester, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik=20
L</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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