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Yes there are significant differences between the euro only ABF motor and a
US ABA.  The ABF uses the 16v lower crank pulley, intermediate shaft and oil
pump.  Of course the ABF also has 16v pistons where the ABA is 8V.  When you
put a 16v head on a US ABA block you get 8:1 compression....not good for
anyting at all but losing races to every honda you meet.

To bring compression back up you can do several things.  Source out ABF
pistons, pay $500+ for custom forged pistons, or rebush the ABA rods to use
2.0 16v pistons and wrist pins from a 9A block and get back to 9.25:1
compression and then use a thinner Headgasket to get back to the 10.25:1 of
an ABF motor.

The ABF also has a better higher flowing head, different cams, better
flowing intake manifold and a single butterfly TB.

HTH

Brian H
  -----Original Message-----
  From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Marc Peterson
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:34 PM
  To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  Subject: ABF vs ABA with 16V head...


  Is this just a matter of shaving the head/decking the block to bring the
compression back up, or are there other differences between the two...(basic
mechanical issues, I know engine management is different)

  Cause I just happen to know where there is a ABA and a wrecked 2.0 Jetta
GLI 16V...

  Marc

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there are significant differences between the euro only ABF motor and a =
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ABA.&nbsp; The ABF uses the 16v lower crank pulley, intermediate shaft =
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When you put a 16v head on a US ABA block you get 8:1 compression....not =
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for anyting at all but losing races to every honda you meet.&nbsp;=20
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bring compression back up you can do several things.&nbsp; Source out =
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pistons, pay $500+ for custom forged pistons, or rebush the ABA rods to =
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16v pistons and wrist pins from a 9A block and get back to 9.25:1 =
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and then use a thinner Headgasket to get back to the 10.25:1 of an ABF=20
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ABF also has a better higher flowing head, different cams, better =
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manifold and a single butterfly TB.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  Behalf Of </B>Marc Peterson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 13, =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this just a matter of shaving the =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cause I just happen to know where =
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