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Delivery Status Notification (Failure)



Hotmail users don=B9t have a choice?  Hmmmm, they could choose NOT to use
hotmail  :-)  I mean, my work/.edu has hotmail incoming filtered, so I neve=
r
get hotmail mail, which is fine with me.  I hate that stuff.  My other ISP
filtered out AOL, hehehe.

Anyhooo, use your ISP's email for this list.  I mean, Hotmail isnt an ISP,
its totally voluntary and secondary email, IMHO.

Greg


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'84 VW Scirocco
'01 Ford Focus
St. Louis, MO

> From: "Christian Els" <tiAn@usiw.net>
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:39:25 -0600
> To: "'84 Scirocco" <scirocco@macslut.org>
> Cc: "Brett Van Sprewenburg" <brett@netacc.net>
> Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
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> I fully agree, but a lot of folks (Hotmail users, for example) don't have
> any choice.
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> Brett, Pete and Chris must decide what is more important, making this
> resource available to a wider audience or making it less easily compromis=
ed
> by spammers. Tough decision...
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> Cheers,
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> Christian
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "'84 Scirocco" <scirocco@macslut.org>
> To: "Christian Els" <tiAn@usiw.net>; "VW List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Cc: "Brett Van Sprewenburg" <brett@netacc.net>
> Sent: Friday, 08 February, 2002 13:52
> Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
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>> No way should he (Brett) stop this.  Open Relay is bad, mmmmmkay
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>> Any ISP that has open relay on their mail servers should be shot!
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>> Werd
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>> Greg
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>> --
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>> '84 VW Scirocco
>> '01 Ford Focus
>> St. Louis, MO
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>>> From: "Christian Els" <tiAn@usiw.net>
>>> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:36:14 -0600
>>> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>> Cc: "Brett Van Sprewenburg" <brett@netacc.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
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>>> I had the same thing happen to me and I finally think I figured out wha=
t
> is
>>> going on.
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>>> The server that is hosting the Scirocco mailing list is rejecting
> messages
>>> from addresses whose originating domain supports open mail relaying.
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>>> Open relaying is being blacklisted as it is the most common way for
> spammers
>>> to send out large batches of email while there is relatively little
>>> legitimate need for it. Mostly it is the result of poor administration
> on
>>> the part of your local ISP's part.
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>>> So, what can you do about it?
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>>> 1.) Talk to your ISP and ask them to shut down the relay service on
> their
>>> mail server.
>>> 2.) Talk to Brett and ask him/the site admin to stop rejecting these
> posts
>>> 3.) Use an email account from a domain that does not support open relay=
.
>>> 4.) Some better idea somebody else out there has...
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>>> Regards,
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>>> Christian Els
>>> 1987 Scirocco 16V - For Sale
>>> http://www.schnellpc.com/scirocco.htm
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ewan Hopkins" <ewanhopkins@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, 08 February, 2002 08:55
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
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>>>> I got this as well when I tried to switch my subscription to anither
>>>> account.
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>>>> Ewan.
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>>>>> From: "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
>>>>> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>>>> Subject: Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:04:24 -0800
>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>>> Received: from [63.227.137.210] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
>>>>> MHotMailBE2B2CF50021400437093FE389D205E10; Wed, 06 Feb 2002
>>> 18:10:18 -0800
>>>>> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=3Dhohn.neubayern.net)by
>>>>> hohn.neubayern.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id 16Ye3C-0005wl-00; Wed,
> 06
>>>>> Feb 2002 19:12:38 -0700
>>>>> Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net ([209.247.163.58])by
>>>>> hohn.neubayern.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id 16Ye2Y-0005to-00for
>>>>> scirocco-l@scirocco.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2002 19:11:58 -0700
>>>>> Received: (qmail 20316 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2002
> 02:08:55 -0000
>>>>> Received: from 63-93-70-138.lsan.dial.netzero.com (HELO adf)
>>> (63.93.70.138)
>>>>>  by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2002 02:08:55 -0000
>>>>> From scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org Wed, 06 Feb 2002 18:10:40 -0800
>>>>> Message-ID: <073e01c1af7b$c409cf60$7a01a8c0@adf>
>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
>>>>> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
>>>>> Sender: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
>>>>> Errors-To: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
>>>>> X-BeenThere: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>>>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8
>>>>> Precedence: bulk
>>>>> List-Help: <mailto:scirocco-l-request@scirocco.org?subject=3Dhelp>
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>>>>> Brett-  any ideas here?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Jessica +ADw-MunchenGrl16v+AEA-hotmail.com+AD4-
>>>>> To: Larry16v +ADw-rocco16v+AEA-netzero.com+AD4-
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
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>>>>> +AD4- I get this every time I try to e-mail the list.... I'm from San
>>> Diego
>>>>> too.
>>>>> I
>>>>> +AD4- talked to you a long time ago when I was trying to find another
>>>>> Rocco...?
>>>>> +AD4- Anyway why is this happening?
>>>>> +AD4- ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> +AD4- From: +ADw-postmaster+AEA-mail.hotmail.com+AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- To: +ADw-munchengrl16v+AEA-hotmail.com+AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:57 PM
>>>>> +AD4- Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>>>>> +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4- This is an automatically generated Delivery Status
>>>>> Notification.
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4- Delivery to the following recipients failed.
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-        scirocco-l+AEA-scirocco.org
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4- +AD4-
>>>>> +AD4-
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>>>>> Scirocco-l mailing list
>>>>> Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>>>> http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l
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