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chassis re-enforcement v.101



true. sometimes people refer to a lower stress bar as a lower subframe.


Chris DeLong
ICQ#45030867
Seattle, WA USA
'80 16V 'Rocco ragtop
'91 GLi 2.0 16V
'77 Rabbit 16V
'80 'Vert (parting out!)
'61 17 Window type II
'91 Vanagon
'78 Rabbit
'84 Jetta





>From: Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
>To: Chris DeLong <green536@hotmail.com>, treed2@u.washington.edu,  
>scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
>Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:30:23 -0800 (PST)
>
>well your right about that, but the 4pt sub frame is
>much more beafier and not the same part at all.
>
>--- Chris DeLong <green536@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > and lets not forget kids that the lower 4pt stress
> > bar came STOCK on all 16v
> > roccos.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris DeLong
> > ICQ#45030867
> > Seattle, WA USA
> > '80 16V 'Rocco ragtop
> > '91 GLi 2.0 16V
> > '77 Rabbit 16V
> > '80 'Vert (parting out!)
> > '61 17 Window type II
> > '91 Vanagon
> > '78 Rabbit
> > '84 Jetta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
> > >To: "T. Reed" <treed2@u.washington.edu>,
> > scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > >Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
> > >Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:05:46 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >I will agree to that entire statement, and when I
> > had
> > >my frame crack repair, the guy repairing it
> > >recommended the 4 point sub frame to prevent
> > further
> > >twisting, and I can safely tell you, I dont regret
> > one
> > >bit buying it, I like it so much that I have
> > another
> > >one sitting in my garage for my daily driver, just
> > >need to find the time to put it on.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- "T. Reed" <treed2@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > > > My roc has both an upper and lower stress bar
> > and I
> > > > can say I felt a
> > > > definite improvement in stiffness (ahem, of the
> > car)
> > > > after installing
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > But let's not forget the downsides..
> > > >
> > > > - if someone hits one of your strut towers, the
> > bar
> > > > is going to help to
> > > >   damage the other one as well
> > > > - added weight (and at the already heavy front
> > of
> > > > the car)
> > > > - (for the lower bar) something else for sticks
> > and
> > > > roadkill to get
> > > >   caught on while driving
> > > > - added expense (like most mods, they're not
> > free!)
> > > > - more "value" to be ignored by the insurance
> > > > adjuster when your car gets
> > > >   totalled
> > > > - both bars make some jobs more difficult
> > (tranny
> > > > swap comes to mind)
> > > > - they're additional "crap in the way" in your
> > > > engine compartment
> > > >
> > > > In my case, though.. the benefits were enough to
> > > > outweigh these negatives.
> > > > I think this is probably the case for most
> > people as
> > > > well..
> > > >
> > > > -Toby
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Shawn c Meze wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How they work is this; Only one strut tower
> > will
> > > > flex at any one time.
> > > > > Never both. So think of it as one strut tower
> > > > leaning upon the other for
> > > > > added support via the strut brace. Make sense?
> > A
> > > > welded unit would do
> > > > > much more in terms of bracing but that limits
> > > > certain necessary
> > > > > maintenance tasks.
> > > >
> > > >
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