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If the strut towers are weak, how does bracing one against the other =
accomplish much? Seems like all that would do is force the two towers =
to simply move in unison rather than independently?
Larry
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From: Rabbit16v=20
To: Scirocco List=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
> Dave, how on Earth can any stress bar reduce "sway"?
Read on.
> What exactly do you mean by that word, anyway. :^) Are you referring =
to
the elimination of roll?
Roll, to me if I have it right, is what the tires would cause if you =
had
stock tires on a car with highly modified suspension. They would =
create a
roll by the sidewalls flexing. I realize that swaybars, suspension, =
and low
pro tires are all things that take care of roll, or sway also. I =
consider
the feeling that you get when your upper strut towers (and no, I'm not
talking about the strut assys/springs themselves but what they mount =
into in
the body) give a little when you go into a corner hard (close to =
loosing
traction is what I call hard) sway as I don't know another word for =
it.
Now, since I have been an auto tech for quite some years (granted, not =
all
working on our wonderful VWs) I have become very sensitive to goings =
on in
the suspension so what I feel others may not but when I installed the =
upper
strut brace, the car handled better in hard cornering.
> The upper strut brace (stress bar, etc.) simply keeps the strut =
towers
from
> moving apart from each other.
and from moving closer to each other. Taking a right hand turn the =
top of
your left strut tower should have a tendancy to move inward, if the =
car's
suspension is modified and the car is low, because there is force =
being
applied at an upward angle. I would think that if the top of any =
strut
tower moves in a corner you would notice it. A strut brace would =
eliminate
this because strut tower would have the other strut tower to =
strengthen it
some.
> However, the tendency to roll in corners is not reduced a bit.
I disagree here because if your strut tower moves at all and a strut =
brace
helps it not move then a strut brace would help. I don't have a =
zillion
years of racing experience or an engineering degree but I do have =
common
sense and this is what I am going off of. I've been proven wrong once =
(in a
while) so if I'm wrong then LMK. But I was absolutely sure there was =
a
difference after installing a strut brace.
Dave
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If the strut towers are weak, how does =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 25, =
2002 11:10=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: chassis =
re-enforcement=20
v.101</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>> Dave, how on Earth can any stress bar =
reduce=20
"sway"?<BR><BR>Read on.<BR><BR>> What exactly do you mean by that =
word,=20
anyway. :^) Are you referring to<BR>the elimination of =
roll?<BR><BR>Roll, to=20
me if I have it right, is what the tires would cause if you =
had<BR>stock tires=20
on a car with highly modified suspension. They would create =
a<BR>roll by=20
the sidewalls flexing. I realize that swaybars, suspension, and=20
low<BR>pro tires are all things that take care of roll, or sway =
also. I=20
consider<BR>the feeling that you get when your upper strut towers (and =
no, I'm=20
not<BR>talking about the strut assys/springs themselves but what they =
mount=20
into in<BR>the body) give a little when you go into a corner hard =
(close to=20
loosing<BR>traction is what I call hard) sway as I don't know another =
word for=20
it.<BR>Now, since I have been an auto tech for quite some years =
(granted, not=20
all<BR>working on our wonderful VWs) I have become very sensitive to =
goings on=20
in<BR>the suspension so what I feel others may not but when I =
installed the=20
upper<BR>strut brace, the car handled better in hard =
cornering.<BR><BR>>=20
The upper strut brace (stress bar, etc.) simply keeps the strut=20
towers<BR>from<BR>> moving apart from each other.<BR><BR>and from =
moving=20
closer to each other. Taking a right hand turn the top =
of<BR>your left=20
strut tower should have a tendancy to move inward, if the =
car's<BR>suspension=20
is modified and the car is low, because there is force =
being<BR>applied at an=20
upward angle. I would think that if the top of any =
strut<BR>tower moves=20
in a corner you would notice it. A strut brace would =
eliminate<BR>this=20
because strut tower would have the other strut tower to strengthen=20
it<BR>some.<BR><BR>> However, the tendency to roll in corners is =
not=20
reduced a bit.<BR><BR>I disagree here because if your strut tower =
moves at all=20
and a strut brace<BR>helps it not move then a strut brace would =
help. I=20
don't have a zillion<BR>years of racing experience or an engineering =
degree=20
but I do have common<BR>sense and this is what I am going off =
of. I've=20
been proven wrong once (in a<BR>while) so if I'm wrong then LMK. =
But I=20
was absolutely sure there was a<BR>difference after installing a strut =
=
brace.<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR><BR>___________________________________________=
____<BR>Scirocco-l=20
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href=3D"mailto:Scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A><BR><A=
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