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couldnt get the graphics to show in the post :)
i've been collecting c-64 games for the past several years, and run an =
emulator on the pc
gotta love it when a dual ghz system says it has 38k free :)
Al

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jeff Toomasson=20
  To: Allyn ; Rabbit16v ; Scirocco List=20
  Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!


  ROTF!=20

  Didn't you guys know the shortcuts?=20

  L+shift-O =3D Load=20

  S+shift-A =3D Save=20

  I had easily 120+ games for that system - those were the days!!  :)=20

   Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com> wrote:=20

    **** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ****
    64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

    READY
    LOAD"ATIDRIVER",8,1
    LOADING...

    (long pause, followed by restart)

    **** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ****
    64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

    READY


    (see? their drivers didnt work back then either :)
    Al



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Rabbit16v"=20
    To: "Scirocco List"=20
    Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:26 PM
    Subject: Re: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!


    > ATI since the early eighties? What, did you run them in your =
Commodore?
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > > I agree I have 3 machines here with XP and I only use ATI since =
ealy
    80's
    > > and I guess I got used to handling their poor delivery system =
for
    windows
    > > for drivers, make sure your motherboard ha! s latest bios update =
then
    > drivers
    > > for everythign else, do not install CDROm drivers, but set card =
to be
    VGA
    > > 16Bit card then install drivers from web site should solve your =
problem,
    > it
    > > has for all my various ATI cards I have here including my Radeon =
7500,
    and
    > > ATI Radeon Wonder.
    > >
    > > ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
    > >
    > >
    > > =3D>-----Original Message-----
    > > =3D>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
    > > =3D>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Joe Doty
    > > =3D>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:20 PM
    > > =3D>To: Euroroc II; Jeff Toomasson; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
    > > =3D>Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>Negative. We use XP Pro on every workstation here at my =
office, and I
    > > =3D>personally use it for develo! pment. It is rock solid.
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>The problem lies with ATI's poor driver support. I have an =
ATI Radeon
    > > =3D>8500, it took me a while to get the problems with that =
ironed out. I
    > > =3D>would recommend going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com =
and making
    > > =3D>sure all of your other hardware's drivers are updated =
(mainly
    chipset).
    > > =3D>I would also flash the BIOS with the latest version. Lastly, =
make
    sure
    > > =3D>you get the most recent driver for the card from ATI's =
website.
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>Joe Doty
    > > =3D>IT/Development
    > > =3D>joe@lcnetwork.com
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>-----Original Message-----
    > > =3D>From: Euroroc II [mailto:flaatr@yahoo.com]
    > > =3D>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:09 AM
    > > =3D>To: Jeff Toomasson; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
    > > =3D>Subject: Re: OT: Need XP Pro Help b! adly!
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>Best fix to XP is to install 2000... XP is Windows for =
Dummies (well
    > > =3D>isn't every version?)
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>-my 0.01 (Not even woth 0.02)
    > > =3D>-RGK-
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>At 03:43 PM 12/22/02 -0800, Jeff Toomasson wrote:
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>I've been trying to load up the drivers for my video card =
(ATI Radeon
    > > =3D>7500) after wiping the HD clean loading up XP Pro and it =
hangs during
    > > =3D>restart while it's supposedly running "system testing" =
(according to
    the
    > > =3D>ATI install program). The XP Pro logo comes on and the =
little status
    > > =3D>indicator freezes on its third pass.
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>I've tried going through ATI's tech support but not really =
finding
    > > =3D>anything there. I haven't tried MSN yet, but that's my next =
stop
    > > =3D>
    ! > > =3D>The card came with the PC when I got it from the guy who =
bought my M3.
    > > =3D>He's actually a tech there and this card could be a beta =
(could
    explain
    > > =3D>why the device manager cannot ID it.)
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>Another kick in the stomach is that he also gave me an AIW =
32MB card
    but
    > > =3D>I just noticed that it doesn't have the normal 16-pin =
interface port
    > > =3D>that older cards have so I can't test it with that one...
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>I'm running a Sony VAIO 1.3GHz P4 with 256MB RAM so there =
shouldn't be
    > > =3D>any problems there.
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>Any help would be greatly appreciated!
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>Thanks, Jeff
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>
    > > =3D>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>couldnt get the graphics to show in the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i've been collecting c-64 games for the =
past=20
several years, and run an emulator on the pc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gotta love it when a dual ghz system =
says it has=20
38k free :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djtoomasson@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:jtoomasson@yahoo.com";>Jeff=20
  Toomasson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Damalventano@sc.rr.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com";>Allyn</A> ; <A =
title=3DRabbit16v@attbi.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:Rabbit16v@attbi.com";>Rabbit16v</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>Scirocco=20
  List</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 23, 2002 =
11:05=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: OT: Need XP Pro =
Help=20
  badly!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P>ROTF!=20
  <P>Didn't you guys know the shortcuts?=20
  <P>L+shift-O =3D Load=20
  <P>S+shift-A =3D Save=20
  <P>I had easily 120+ games for that system - those were the =
days!!&nbsp; :)=20
  <P>&nbsp;<B><I>Allyn &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com";>amalventano@sc.rr.com</A>&gt;</I></=
B>=20
  wrote:=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">****=20
    COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ****<BR>64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES=20
    FREE<BR><BR>READY<BR>LOAD"ATIDRIVER",8,1<BR>LOADING...<BR><BR>(long =
pause,=20
    followed by restart)<BR><BR>**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ****<BR>64K =
RAM=20
    SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE<BR><BR>READY<BR><BR><BR>(see? their =
drivers=20
    didnt work back then either :)<BR>Al<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original =
Message=20
    -----<BR>From: "Rabbit16v" <RABBIT16V@ATTBI.COM><BR>To: "Scirocco =
List"=20
    <SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG><BR>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:26=20
    PM<BR>Subject: Re: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR><BR><BR>&gt; ATI =
since the=20
    early eighties? What, did you run them in your =
Commodore?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Dave<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I agree I have 3 machines here with XP and =
I only=20
    use ATI since ealy<BR>80's<BR>&gt; &gt; and I guess I got used to =
handling=20
    their poor delivery system for<BR>windows<BR>&gt; &gt; for drivers, =
make=20
    sure your motherboard ha! s latest bios update then<BR>&gt; =
drivers<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; for everythign else, do not install CDROm drivers, but set card =
to=20
    be<BR>VGA<BR>&gt; &gt; 16Bit card then install drivers from web site =
should=20
    solve your problem,<BR>&gt; it<BR>&gt; &gt; has for all my various =
ATI cards=20
    I have here including my Radeon 7500,<BR>and<BR>&gt; &gt; ATI Radeon =

    Wonder.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ATS - Patrick Bureau -=20
    txrocco@sbcglobal.net<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;-----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;From:=20
    scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Joe =
Doty<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; =3D&gt;Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:20 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;To:=20
    Euroroc II; Jeff Toomasson; scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;Subject: RE: OT: Need XP Pro Help badly!<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Negative. We use XP Pro on every =
workstation=20
    here at my office, and I<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;personally use it for =
develo!=20
    pment. It is rock solid.<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;The problem=20
    lies with ATI's poor driver support. I have an ATI Radeon<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    =3D&gt;8500, it took me a while to get the problems with that ironed =
out.=20
    I<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;would recommend going to=20
    http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and making<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;sure all of=20
    your other hardware's drivers are updated =
(mainly<BR>chipset).<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;I would also flash the BIOS with the latest version. Lastly,=20
    make<BR>sure<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;you get the most recent driver for =
the card=20
    from ATI's website.<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Joe =
Doty<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; =3D&gt;IT/Development<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;joe@lcnetwork.com<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;-----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;From:=20
    Euroroc II [mailto:flaatr@yahoo.com]<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Sent: =
Monday,=20
    December 23, 2002 10:09 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;To: Jeff Toomasson;=20
    scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Subject: Re: OT: Need XP =
Pro Help=20
    b! adly!<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Best fix to XP is =
to install=20
    2000... XP is Windows for Dummies (well<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;isn't =
every=20
    version?)<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;-my 0.01 (Not =
even woth=20
    0.02)<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;-RGK-<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;At 03:43=20
    PM 12/22/02 -0800, Jeff Toomasson wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;I've been trying to load up the drivers =
for my video=20
    card (ATI Radeon<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;7500) after wiping the HD clean =
loading=20
    up XP Pro and it hangs during<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;restart while it's =

    supposedly running "system testing" (according to<BR>the<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    =3D&gt;ATI install program). The XP Pro logo comes on and the little =

    status<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;indicator freezes on its third =
pass.<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;I've tried going through ATI's tech =
support but not=20
    really finding<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;anything there. I haven't tried =
MSN yet,=20
    but that's my next stop<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>! &gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;The card came=20
    with the PC when I got it from the guy who bought my M3.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    =3D&gt;He's actually a tech there and this card could be a beta=20
    (could<BR>explain<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;why the device manager cannot =
ID=20
    it.)<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Another kick in the =
stomach is=20
    that he also gave me an AIW 32MB card<BR>but<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;I =
just=20
    noticed that it doesn't have the normal 16-pin interface =
port<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;that older cards have so I can't test it with that =
one...<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;I'm running a Sony VAIO 1.3GHz P4 with =
256MB RAM so=20
    there shouldn't be<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;any problems there.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Any help would be greatly =
appreciated!<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    =3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =3D&gt;Thanks, Jeff<BR>&gt; &gt; =
=3D&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
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