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- Subject: 2.0l
- From: bhonnold@pac-cap.com (BcH)
- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:36:34 -0800
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I don't have the formula, but the converse approach might do the
trick......simply rebush 3A rods to accept the ABA wrist pins and use
notched ABA pistons. That "should" yeild 8:1 compression so you would
need a thinner HG. Also, the piston skirt might have to be clearanced.
not sure
The simply approach for lowering compression is to get a hold of
www.headgaskets.com and let them tell you what thickness copper gasket
you need, then build it and ship it to you.
Brian H
-----Original Message-----
From: ATS - Patrick Bureau [mailto:txrocco@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:30 PM
To: Brian Honnold; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: 2.0l
I wonder if such a recipe is possible for the 3a conversion, lowering
the compression from 10:1 to 8/9:1 to permit better turbo capabilities
or G60 ladder on it.
anyone have a though on this ?
ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of BcH
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:41 PM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: 2.0l
Not that you asked for this but I'm posting again for those who will
want to know.
ABF Recipe;
Take one ABA block, remove the crankshaft timing pulley, oil pump,
intermediate shaft, oil pump drive gear and distributor hole plug.
Replace removed items with units from a 2.0 16v donor.
Remove ABA pistons, have eyebrows notched into pistons for valve
clearance. (not mandatory but a damn good idea)
Reassemble ABA 16v motor for unspectacular 8:1 compression.
Or, pay big about $400 for ABF pistons or $$$$$$ for custom pistons.
Alternately, rebush ABA rods for 2.0 16v wrist pins and use 2.0 16v
pistons, resulting in 9.2:1 compression.
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_________________
1978 Scirocco ABA 16vT Box-O-Parts
-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of
JoshuaA.Conner@VerizonWireless.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:19 AM
To: red8716v@yahoo.com
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: 2.0l
Do you still have the 2.0 ABA? I talked to Colin(TT) today about
possibly converting to an ABF! They have almost all the parts necessary
to do the conversion. He said the stock cis-e with fuel enrichment
and euro cam is good for 170 HP streetable! The plus is the ABF is
smoother also.
===> Attention List <=====
Anyone have a pre 1995 2.0 crossflow short block to possibly trade for a
1.8 16V shortblock?
Joshua C.
'88 Red 16V 2.0
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don't have the formula, but the converse approach might do the =
trick......simply=20
rebush 3A rods to accept the ABA wrist pins and use notched ABA =
pistons. =20
That "should" yeild 8:1 compression so you would need a thinner =
HG. Also,=20
the piston skirt might have to be clearanced. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D080483320-10122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D080483320-10122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>not=20
sure</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D080483320-10122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D080483320-10122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>The=20
simply approach for lowering compression is to get a hold of <A=20
href=3D"http://www.headgaskets.com";>www.headgaskets.com</A> and let them =
tell you=20
what thickness copper gasket you need, then build it and ship it to=20
you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D080483320-10122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D080483320-10122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Brian=20
H</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> ATS =
- Patrick=20
Bureau [mailto:txrocco@sbcglobal.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, =
December 10,=20
2002 12:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Brian Honnold;=20
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 2.0l =
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D614492820-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
wonder if such a recipe is possible for the 3a conversion, lowering =
the=20
compression from 10:1 to 8/9:1 to permit better turbo capabilities or =
G60=20
ladder on it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D614492820-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>anyone have a though on this ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>ATS - Patrick Bureau - =
txrocco@sbcglobal.net<BR></FONT></P>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>BcH<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:41=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 2.0l =
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN class=3Dpostbody>Not =
that you asked=20
for this but I'm posting again for those who will want to=20
know.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN class=3Dpostbody><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN class=3Dpostbody>ABF=20
Recipe;</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN class=3Dpostbody><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN class=3Dpostbody>Take =
one ABA block,=20
remove the crankshaft timing pulley, oil pump, intermediate shaft, =
oil pump=20
drive gear and distributor hole plug. Replace removed items with =
units from=20
a 2.0 16v donor. <BR><BR>Remove ABA pistons, have eyebrows notched =
into=20
pistons for valve clearance. (not mandatory but a damn good idea)=20
<BR><BR>Reassemble ABA 16v motor for unspectacular 8:1 compression.=20
<BR><BR>Or, pay big about $400 for ABF pistons or $$$$$$ for custom =
pistons.=20
<BR><BR>Alternately, rebush ABA rods for 2.0 16v wrist pins and use =
2.0 16v=20
pistons, resulting in 9.2:1 compression. </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN=20
class=3Dpostbody></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D071142519-10122002><SPAN class=3Dpostbody><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><BR><IMG alt=3Dicon_eek.gif=20
src=3D"http://forums.vwsport.com/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif"; =
border=3D0=20
NOSEND=3D"1"><BR>_________________<BR>1978 Scirocco ABA 16vT=20
Box-O-Parts</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] <B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>JoshuaA.Conner@VerizonWireless.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Tuesday,=20
December 10, 2002 11:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
red8716v@yahoo.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> 2.0l =
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Do you still have the 2.0 ABA? I talked to =
Colin(TT) today=20
about possibly converting to an ABF! They have almost all =
the parts=20
necessary to do the conversion. He said the stock =
cis-e=20
with fuel enrichment and euro cam is good for 170 HP =
streetable! The=20
plus is the ABF is smoother also. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>=3D=3D=3D> Attention List =
<=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Anyone have a pre 1995 2.0 crossflow short block to =
possibly trade=20
for a 1.8 16V shortblock?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D217034418-10122002>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joshua C.</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>'88 Red 16V 2.0</FONT>=20
</P></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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