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[NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA



hehe reminds me when Brian asked me to visit a White 8v,

he was enthusiast about a "project" after 10 mins I found the car was pretty
bad shape
looking at a bumper reveals not a lot, open hatch, pull covers on drivers
side and
passenger side quarter panels and look into the corners of the frame, a car
accidented
and repaired will have "fold or crack marks in the paint or body parts
(especially if bonded )
and you will able to see the same inside the engine bay by looking for small
stress cracks in the
front 2 "arms" that extend to the front, and by checking the lower frame
work in the front.

When I go check a car out, I have no quarry slipping myself under a car and
start poking around at the gas lines either.

-------------------------------------------------------
    __  __________
   /  |/_ __/ ___/ Patrick Bureau
  //| | / / \__ \  1985 8v Prowler Orange "Beatrice"
 / _  |/ / ___/ /  1985 8v Titian Red "Lucky"
/_/ |_/_/ /____/   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco



=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: Jason [mailto:jason@scirocco.org]
=>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:03 AM
=>To: Allyn; Jason; ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>Subject: Re: [NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA
=>
=>
=>Well, basically Allyn, you have to just be the most critical you possibly
=>can.  The last time I inspected a car "for the list" was a little over a
=>year ago.  I didn't drive it, but the guy said it was "absolutely perfect
=>in every way".  Sheya right!  The car was nice, but it wasn't
=>perfect.  The
=>trick is to take a pad with you and note everything you see --
=>everything.  It should take you 2 minutes just to inspect the
=>paint -- look
=>at it from every angle and distance.  Down the sides of the car; don't
=>forget the roof, etc.  Look in all door jambs and under every single seal
=>for evidence of paint.  etc etc.  Below was the report I gave on that
=>"perfect" car .
=>
=>         I'll try to get down to Uniontown to inspect the other one over
=>the weekend; I'll call him today.
=>
=>Jason
=>
=> From July 11, 2001:
=>-------------------------
=>Details:
=>
=>86 Scirocco 16V
=>Tornado Red, Cloth/Vinyl
=>No power package
=>Sunroof
=>VIN:  WVWCA0535GK029876
=>Odo:  114,192 miles.
=>Asking $3495.
=>
=>My notes:
=>---------------------------------------------------
=>Paint is excellent, all original.  There is a 2" scratch on the passenger
=>front fender down to the paint.  That is (as far as I could see)
=>the _only_
=>imperfection in the paint.  I think there may have been rust
=>repaired over
=>the driver's door handle, but I'm not sure -- and that was the only
=>suspected body filler I found.  No other dings or anything.  The car is
=>really in great shape.
=>
=>The sunroof doesn't line up properly and doesn't open.  Glovebox doesn't
=>stay up.
=>All 4 rotors are badly rusted & pitted.  Rear calipers seem OK.
=>PIAA Fogs, one is cracked.
=>Small wear mark on driver's door panel arm rest.
=>OEM Radio with aftermarket CD-Changer mounted in glovebox, aftermarket F
=>speakers.
=>Aftermarket shift boot.
=>Driver's inner CV joint recently replaced
=>Tires have good tread, Goodyear Eagle HP 195/60-14
=>Teardrops in VG condition
=>Bolsters are 100% perfect.
=>Rear hatch cover in _ok_ condition.
=>Bumpers are in great shape, small ding in rubber strip in front bumper.
=>OE Paint, OE Exhaust, OE Suspension.
=>PA Inspection through 06/02
=>No Cracks in dash.
=>Shift bushings good.
=>Side mount should be changed, engine vibrates; belt is supposedly
=>new, but
=>I'd replace it.
=>Started right up, but motor is dirty.
=>No stress marks on rear bumper mounts (i.e. never hit from behind).
=>All body parts align perfectly.
=>No sign of any re-painted areas.
=>
=>
=>At 05:07 PM 7/31/2002, Allyn wrote:
=>>aww yeea. give us some pointers, heh.
=>>Al
=>>
=>>----- Original Message -----
=>>From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
=>>To: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@attbi.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
=>>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:53 PM
=>>Subject: RE: [NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA
=>>
=>>
=>> > Guys, I'm not too far from Uniontown if anyone is seriously
=>interested in
=>> > it and wants me to look at it.  For those who don't know, I'm
=>the most
=>> anal
=>> > retentive bitch on the planet when it comes to tearing up
=>used cars.  Just
=>> > ask Daun. :)
=>> > Jason
=>> >
=>> >
=>> >
=>> > At 02:34 PM 7/31/2002, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
=>> > >humm..
=>> > >
=>> > >8500$ for a MINT 88, but the question is, what does not work
=>on the car?
=>> > >then work the price down from that. alot of these single
=>owner car thing
=>> > >their car will be worth thousands of $$ because , there is
=>out there a
=>> > >following of scirocco.... Just experience this, guy wanted
=>2K then made it
=>> > >fall to 1.5K then1K he finally settled for 750$, go INSPECT
=>the car, and
=>> > >make a list of items that are ripped, teared, need
=>replacement, fixing and
=>> > >tabulate a cost, by the time you are done, that car MInt
=>will not be worth
=>> > >more than 3-4K.
=>> > >
=>> > >also you said he poure 85 grand into the 82, I do think that
=>you ment 85
=>> > >hundreds (8,500 not 85,000) because the laterr bumber seems
=>a tad over
=>> > >zealous in repairs for a car worth 12K at the time.
=>> > >
=>> > >
=>> > >
=>> > >-------------------------------------------------------
=>> > >     __  __________
=>> > >    /  |/_ __/ ___/ Patrick Bureau
=>> > >   //| | / / \__ \  1985 8v Prowler Orange "Beatrice"
=>> > >  / _  |/ / ___/ /  1985 8v Titian Red "Lucky"
=>> > >/_/ |_/_/ /____/   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
=>> > >
=>> > >
=>> > >
=>> > >=>-----Original Message-----
=>> > >=>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
=>> > >=>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Michael Carlson
=>> > >=>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:05 AM
=>> > >=>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> > >=>Subject: [NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>I was recently contacted by a fellow in Uniontown, PA who stumbled
=>> upon my
=>> > >=>website.
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>He's got a stock, pristine red Scirocco that he's thinking of
=>> > >=>selling so he
=>> > >=>can buy a plane.  (He's also got a wrecked gold '82 and a
=>'75 Super
=>> Beetle
=>> > >=>Convertible that needs restoration that he's looking to
=>get rid of.)
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>The '88 spends most of its time under the car cover in his garage,
=>> and has
=>> > >=>only 24,424 miles on it.  He is the original owner.  I have a
=>> > >=>couple scanned
=>> > >=>Polaroids of the car, and it looks like a stock red 16V.
=>The pics don't
=>> > >=>really show any details, but it sounds like the car is mint.  He
=>> > >=>has no idea
=>> > >=>what a fair asking price is, but he's thinking of the $8500
=>> range.  Sounds
=>> > >=>like he may negotiate.  Or, maybe he'll keep it if he
=>doesn't like the
=>> > >=>offers he gets.  <shrug>
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>Regarding the '82, here's what he sent me in an e-mail:
=>"On the 82,
=>> I put
=>> > >=>around 85 grand on it and then gave it to my son ( mistake).  He
=>> > >=>said he was
=>> > >=>run off the road and hit a cement parking barrier at the high
=>> > >=>school, which
=>> > >=>in turn pushed a lot of the drivetrain back. This was
=>about 15 or so
=>> years
=>> > >=>ago, I think.  It's been sitting up in back of the garage ever
=>> since.  The
=>> > >=>body is fairly good shape still and just about all the
=>parts are still
=>> > >=>there.  Neighbor kids busted the windshield playing ball but
=>> > >=>everything else
=>> > >=>is still intact. It's the gold color with a manual trans.
=>Trans and
=>> motor
=>> > >=>still may be good. ...I don't have a digital camera but
=>the dash is
=>> pretty
=>> > >=>well shot. The fenders, doors and hatch seem good as are some of
=>> > >=>the smaller
=>> > >=>parts.  Also have a fairly new overhauled motor from an 85
=>with a rod
=>> > >=>through the block."
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>Contact info:
=>> > >=>Dale Coddington
=>> > >=>dalec@helicon.net
=>> > >=>Uniontown, PA
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>There ya have it.
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>Mike Carlson
=>> > >=>'84 Scirocco Wolfsburg Edition
=>> > >=>'95 GTI VR6
=>> > >=>http://www.divergent.org/mikes.vws/
=>> > >=>
=>> > >=>
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=>> > >
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