Re: [Re: Differences between 8v and 16v] [Intake on the wrong side]

["Andy Holmes" <scalainj@hotmail.com>]

We did get the 16v Scirocco in 1986/87 only. It was officially imported in 
LHD only and was very expensive compared to the 8v and other cars at the 
time. Numbers imported ramnge from 10 to 50 depending on who you speak to. I 
have only ever seen 2.

The other A1 was the Mk1 Golf 16S (soupages) which was a French edition with 
Oettinger head and valves etc etc produced in limited numbers to compete 
with things like the Renault 5 turbo. It was a specail a limited edition 
(less than 100 i think) produced by Oettinger officially for Volkswagen 
France. Some (2 or 3) found their way to the UK.

As for pansy motors our 8v produced 112hp from 1985 to 1992 which is only a 
minor 11hp less than your stock 16v.
In fact our carbed 8v produced as much as your injected 8v - 90hp but then 
our 16v produced a nice fat 139hp ;-)

Andy Holmes
91 Scirocco Scala
83 Jetta Surprise



>From: 16V Jason <jason@scirocco.org>
>To: "Andy Holmes" <scalainj@hotmail.com>, treed2@u.washington.edu
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: [Re: Differences between 8v and 16v] [Intake on the wrong  
>side]
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:42:05 -0400
>
>A1 16V?  I thought the UK never got the 16V Scirocco -- and I don't know of
>any other A1 cars that got a 16V.
>
>That would mean that you're right -- you never had the pansy cams in the A2
>cars.  But you had only the pansy MOTORS in the A1 cars. :)
>
>Jason
>
>
>
>At 05:31 AM 9/12/2001 , Andy Holmes wrote:
>>No - It came from a 139hp engine
>>Only the Scirocco 16v elsewhere had detuned cams as in the UK we never had
>>Cats until 1992.
>>All 16v engines in both A1 and A2 chassis in the UK were 139hp - we never
>>had the pansy cams ;-)
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "T. Reed" <treed2@u.washington.edu>
>>>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [Re: Differences between 8v and 16v] [Intake on the wrong
>>>side]
>>>Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 01:03:49 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>> > When catalytic converters became mandatory in Germany in the late 80's
>>> > VW had to change the cams of the 16V to a more moderate version
>>> > to protect the cat from getting too much unburned fuel .
>>> > That is the main difference from the PL to the earlier KR engine.
>>> > Due to the more moderate intake cam, the 50mm intake was
>>> > rather useless and even had a loss of torque at lower RPM.
>>> > So it was replaced again by the smaller 40mm intake.
>>> > The max. HP figure of the PL engine was corrected down from 139 PS to
>>>129 PS then.
>>>
>>>Oh, crap! I just had Andy Holmes in England send me a "euro intake cam"
>>>(still waiting for it to arrive) from an '88 Jetta 16V. I don't know
>>>whether it came from a KR or a PL. I didn't know there was a difference -
>>>I just assumed the term "euro" intake cam was specific enough to mean the
>>>more radical factory cam. Does this mean that I just threw away a bunch 
>>>of
>>>money on a cam identical to the one already in my US engine??
>>>
>>>What terrific luck... GRRR!!
>>>
>>>-Toby
>>>
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