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RE: Differences between 8v and 16v

To: scirocco16v@scirocco16v.com, dwitt1@satx.rr.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
From: "Andy Holmes" <scalainj@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 10:58:52 +0100
Sender: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Or in the UK - 8v - quick 16v - err never seen one

Andy Holmes
91 Scirocco Scala
83 Jetta Surprise



>From: "16volt" <scirocco16v@scirocco16v.com>
>To: "dale witt" <dwitt1@satx.rr.com>, "Scirocco-L" 
><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 02:56:13 -0700
>
>Differences...8V quick. 16V fast.
>
>Shannon
>www.scirocco16v.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>[mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of dale witt
>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:04 PM
>To: Scirocco-L
>Subject: Re: Differences between 8v and 16v
>
>
>The 86.5 16v was introduced in this part of the country in June of 86.  You
>could choose between red or black.  Silver and white was introduced in 87.
>
>Dale
>82 2.1 16v roc (Zender 400 w/NOS)
>86.5 2.0 16v
>85 1.8 GTI
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "16V Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
>To: "Scirocco-L" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:47 PM
>Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
>
>
> > At 04:38 PM 8/31/2001 , Neal Tovsen wrote:
> >
> > >I haven't heard of a white 86.5, but then again, I've only seen ONE 
>86.5
>16v
> > >ever. It was red, of course. :)
> >
> > Huh? Really!?
> >
> > Ben Harder's is an 86.5... But there are lots out there... or at least I
> > thought there were.  Hmmmm..
> >
> > But yeah, AFAIKnew White was only 88... but there could have been some
>late
> > 87s that snuck in there.  Daun, do you know?
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > >Neal
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jason Cammisa [mailto:cammisa@element5.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > > To: Neal Tovsen; 16V Jason; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They weren't until 1988, though, now were they? ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In R/T's defense:
> > > >
> > > > They suck as a magazine -- but:
> > > >          a.  They got the fastest 0-60 time from a 16V Roc (7.7s)
> > > >          b.  They're not psyhic. :)
> > > >
> > > > hehe
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 03:54 PM 8/31/2001 , Neal Tovsen wrote:
> > > > >Of course, R/T also forgot that 16v's were available in White in 
>the
>USA.
> > > > >
> > > > >Neal
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of 16V Jason
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:21 AM
> > > > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Differences between 8v and 16v
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rich,
> > > > > >          Some highlights from the magazines below.  For the
>complete
> > > > > > articles, go to www.scirocco16v.org and click on "Press"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jason
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R/T:
> > > > > > h body-color bumpers, air dam, mirrors, skirts, and cast-alloy
> > > > > > wheels with
> > > > > > sculptured holes that look as though they force cooling air to 
>or
> > > > > > from the
> > > > > > brakes, depending on which side of the car they are no. There's
> > > > > > also a new
> > > > > > radio antenna at the back of the roof, sloping aft like an
>aircraft
> > > > > > antenna. Colors are limited to red, black, and silver.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the 16-valve, the springs are shorter and thus stiffer; the
>rear
> > > > > > anti-roll bar is larger and shock damping is increased. There's
>also a
> > > > > > cross-brace between the front suspension arms to increase 
>lateral
> > > > > > rigidity.
> > > > > > Tire size is increased to 185/60HR-14 on 6-in. wheels. Braking
> > > > > > performance
> > > > > > has been improved by fitting 9.4-in. solid rear discs in place 
>of
>the
> > > > > > standard car's drums, and enlargement to 10.1-in. of its vented
> > > > > > front discs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Beneath the new twincam cylinder head, the Scirocco uses
>Volkswagen's
> > > > > > standard inline-4 modified with greater oil pump capacity and
>special
> > > > > > piston-cooling oil jets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C/D:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The clutch and the gearbox have both been strengthened,
> > > > though the gear
> > > > > > ratios are largely unchanged (fifth gear has been lowered,
> > > > from 0.89 to
> > > > > > 0.91:1).
> > > > > > All four springs and shocks have been recalibrated, and the
> > > > nose has been
> > > > > > lowered 0.4 inch
> > > > > > Finally, the rear anti-roll bar has been enlarged from 0.8 to
> > > > 1.0 inch in
> > > > > > diameter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > VW&P:
> > > > > > . The front springs have again been made shorter (by 10 mm) and
> > > > > > stiffer, a
> > > > > > 24 mm rear anti-roll bar has been added, a front lower stress
> > > > bar is now
> > > > > > standard equipment, the shocks have been recalibrated, and the
> > > > > > car now has
> > > > > > four-wheel disc brakes
> > > > > > The exhaust system is stainless steel, which should last far
> > > > longer than
> > > > > > the mid-steel version
> > > > > > Other features that should boost longevity are sodium-filled
> > > > > > exhaust valves
> > > > > > and oil-cooled pistons. As a bonus, the l6V also has the
> > > > larger oil pump
> > > > > > found on the turbo diesel, to help meet the extra lubricating
>demands.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MT:
> > > > > > To help put its robust new power-plant to best use, the
> > > > Scirocco 16V GTX
> > > > > > has also received a major suspension revamp. Heavier springs 
>have
>been
> > > > > > fitted up front, and upgraded shocks reside at each corner. The
>rear
> > > > > > anti-roll bar diameter has been upped from 20.5 to 24 mm, and
> > > > ride height
> > > > > > lowered 10 mm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:56 AM 8/27/2001 , thescirocco@juno.com wrote:
> > > > > > >On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:40:19 -0500 "Aaron Ness"
><aaron@makuta.com>
> > > > > > >writes:
> > > > > > > > Didn't the big rear wing come on all '85.5+ 'roccos?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Yeah, but I didn't know that was a mid production change, I
> > > > thought it
> > > > > > >was all '85 and up...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Incidentally, I have one of these wings in my garage that
>someone
> > > > > > > > can have if they want it.  I'll ship it for $75, or you
> > > > can pick it up
> > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > free.
> > > > > > > > Columbus, IN.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (Yes, I know it doesn't cost $75 to ship it.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aaron
> > > > > > > > '87 528e
> > > > > > > > '82 Scirocco
> > > > > > > > '70 Beetle
> > > > > > > > '82 Kawasaki GPz550
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >That would be a pain to properly box up and ship...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -tranny
> > > > > > > > > > -Front rotor size
> > > > > > > > > > -rear discs vs. rear drum
> > > > > > > > > > -factory body kit
> > > > > > > > > > -fuba antenna
> > > > > > > > > > -rear wing
> > > > > > > > > The fuel injection, 16V brain boxes and the engine 
>harness.
> > > > > > > > > 22mm M/cyl
> > > > > > > > > 8000 RPM tach
> > > > > > > > > 4 point lower bar
> > > > > > > > > larger rear anti-swaybar
> > > > > > > > > Black striped taillights (not necessarily a 16V thing)
> > > > > > > > > Blacked out headlight retaining rings
> > > > > > > > > Driver's fender without am antenna hole
> > > > > > > > > Heavier pressure plate and a disc with a larger splined
>center
> > > > > > > > > The relay shaft has a slight angle to it
> > > > > > > > > Seats
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Peter - http://thescirocco.com - Discount Techtonics,
>Autotech-Quaife
> > > > > > >USA, Magnecor, & Peloquin Dealer -  Bear, DE 19701
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >'79 Scirocco 16V "Retro"
> > > > > > >'83 GTI "Caged Rabbit"
> > > > > > >'84.5 Scirocco "Oddball"
> > > > > > >'84 GTI  - SciRollers: '79 White Champagne Edition, '84
> > > > Black, '88 Red
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >DO NOT:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
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