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Re: Anyone have a 2117cc 16V



Randy I have been curious about the same type motor. I have been talking to 
a couple people from Velocity sport tuning... they have been a lot of help 
to me in the past, and I have found them to have a lot of truth to what they 
say. The BS is at a minimum. They recommend the use of a tall block from the 
later 2.0 8v crossflow motors that seemed to have taken place of the 16v 
2.0.
This would be:

-95.5 crank (lightening of course, possible knife edging)
-160mm connecting rods (check the EIP website they have chromoly,
                        forged, and titanium)
-pistons? I havn't gone that far, but for this application I guess they
                        would custom... again Velocity has them.
As far as the ratio of bore to stroke... I was told by Velocity that using 
the other older block(9A) from the later 2.0 16v motors of the early 90's 
you wouldn't be able to spool all the way up to red line... how true? I 
havn't had a chance to go any further with it... though they said they have 
done the combination 95.5/160mm rods/Bore?(didn't ask)/tall block from a 2.0 
8v, and had great success with it working ridiculously well through the 
whole power band... sounds good to me... $$$ value?? maybe it would be 
cheaper to go to a turbo?

well I hope that helps you in your quest for power/speed...
chris jevens

>From: "Randy B" <sirocco@telocity.com>
>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Anyone have a 2117cc 16V
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:45:09 -0800
>
>Has anyone built, or know someone who has, a 2117cc 16V (or 8V for that
>matter).
>I would like to find someone who has tried this succesfully or unsucesfully
>and why.
>
>JE (other?) 84mm forged pistons, Carillo (other?) forged rods, and 95.5mm
>TDI forged crank (knife-edged to lighten) in a 9A block (16V)
>
>I am considering finding a 90-92 GTI and doing a complete
>motor/fuel/motronic swap.
>It seems if I can:
>A. B. Have the head flowed and ported as needed for the proper port 
>velocity.
>C. Match th correct cams
>D. Run ~11.2:1 compression
>
>I could have a monster of a motor with good streetability.
>
>What do you all think, need some advice here :)
>
>Thanks,
>Randy
>81 Scirocco S "Mars" - needs a bigger motor
>81 Scirocco S "Cosmos" - will get the TT 1847cc 8V for daily duties
>
>
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