RE: Anyone replace their lug bolts with studs and nuts?

["Fry, Larry" <LEF@chem-tronics.com>]

Aaron's second paragraph refers to the only downside of bolts; the annoyance
when putting a wheel on.
And, like Aaron implies, strength is a wash...no advantage to either one. 
 What else is there?.....

Larry  old crock (anal old crock..)and his old 'Roc

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Ness [mailto:aaron@makuta.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:25 PM
To: Fry, Larry; 'Dave Ewing'; 'Scirocco List'
Subject: RE: Anyone replace their lug bolts with studs and nuts?


I don't know how studs are "stronger" - could you cite evidence?  I don't
think there would be any correlation between running slicks and using studs.

I am annoyed by the fact that the Germans use bolts instead of studs.  Have
you ever compared how easy it is to mount a wheel on a vehicle with studs to
one without?  It's such a pain that BMW included a tool to assist you in the
trunk mounted tool kit of my 528e.  It threads into one of the holes and you
slip one of the holes in the wheel over it, and after you start a couple of
bolts, you remove this tool.  (I haven't had occasion to use it yet.)

For a given size and material, how is a stud any more likely to break than
the bolt it is replacing?

Aaron
'87 528e
'82 Scirocco
'70 Beetle
'82 GPz550


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Fry, Larry
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:20 PM
> To: Dave Ewing; Scirocco List
> Subject: RE: Anyone replace their lug bolts with studs and nuts?
>
>
> Dave-
>   None of the owners of cars with studs like them?  My "other
> car" has them
> and I'm quite fond of 'em.  Can you name one functional
> downside to having
> studs...just one?  I can name one downside for bolts.  It's a
> minor one, but
> it's one more than I can come up with for studs.....
>
> Larry  sandiego16V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Ewing [mailto:rabbit16v@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:05 PM
> To: Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: Anyone replace their lug bolts with studs and nuts?
>
>
> WHY!!  Why would you want to use studs?  The only reason I
> could think is if
> you are running slicks and you need the extra strength but
> even then I don't
> know if they are necessarily stronger than the factory bolts let alone
> aftermarket.  If you need clearance to use aftermarket wheels
> get a set of
> aftermarket lug bolts, not studs.  Believe me, I have dealt
> with them on a
> number a vehicles, none of the owners liked them, mechanics
> don't like them
> and they are unnecessary.  HTH!!
>
> Dave
>
> > If so, where did you source the studs and nuts from?  What
> seat angle
> > is required?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > =====
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> > '87 16V, ("Victor"), '93 Cabby ("Teufelhasen")
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> >
> > Stupid is as stupid does.
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