Re: Clutch Pressure Plate, was: Battery questions

["Rick Alexander" <rick@brubakerbox.com>]

Ron,

You are not the cheapest! I'm going to use the best parts of the lot. I'll
toss the ring that's bad though.

I think we are talking about the same parts here. Those three tabs center
the disk and ring in the PP. If undue stress were placed on those three tabs
then it seems to me that that entire assembly could take a hit. Consider
this, what if that new PP was installed because the three tabs had failed
and they hadn't changed the ring. Wouldn't that make some sort of sense?

Rick Alexander
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheapass Ron" <rapieper@yahoo.com>
To: "Rick Alexander" <rick@brubakerbox.com>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Clutch Pressure Plate, was: Battery questions


> Hmm..doubt that we're talking about the same thing here.  The three
> tabs I am speaking (writing!) of are around the perimeter of the PP.
> IIRC - this is from memory - the tabs are arranged so the PP housing
> (which is bolted to the flywheel) pulls the plate that clamps the
> clutch.  If you try to push-start it, the plate will push those tabs
> (and therefore the PP housing, the flywheel, etc.), which they're not
> designed to do...hance they kink, weaken, and eventually die.
>
> Now, AFA the ring, use whatever one you have that's best, and if the
> flywheel and PP look good, hell, I'd re-use 'em (I'm cheap!).
>
> G/L,
>
> Ron
>
> --- Rick Alexander <rick@brubakerbox.com> wrote:
> > I wonder! Could that explain that I found last weekend?
> >
> > I have two 1.8L 16V engines in my garage right now. I'm building a
> > swap
> > engine for the Cabby.
> >
> > I had the flywheel, clutch, pressure plate off the one I'm building
> > and
> > decided that the pressure plate didn't look all that healthy (for
> > that
> > matter neither did the flywheel).
> >
> > I pulled the other set off the other engine and found a nearly new
> > pressure
> > plate and disk (woo hoo). The unusual thing that I did find was that
> > the
> > retaining ring had been worn flat at the bends where it turns to
> > enter the
> > retaining holes. These flats were worn better than half way through
> > the ring
> > where it contacts the pressure plate.
> >
> > My question to the esteemed list is (drum roll please). Is this
> > simply a
> > worn out retaining ring or could this be the result of bump starting?
> > Either
> > way I have a good set of parts and the flywheel is being ground as we
> > speak
> > (write).
> >
> > Rick Alexander
> > http://www.brubakerbox.com
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cheapass Ron" <rapieper@yahoo.com>
> > To: "16V Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>; "Brian Haygood"
> > <Scirious@hotmail.com>; "Scirocco-l" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Battery questions
> >
> >
> > > > At 01:39 AM 11/4/2001, Brian Haygood wrote:
> > >
> > > > I
> > > > >usually just pop the clutch at the bottom of the hill instead of
> > > > starting
> > > > >the car in front of my house, but for this arguement, lets
> > assume
> > > > I'm
> > > > >normal, instead).
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmmm...Ben Harder just had to replace his pressure plate, the
> > factory
> > > said it was because he had push-started it once...seems there are
> > three
> > > (IIRC) little tabs in there that are designed to be stressed in
> > > tension, and if you apply stress to them in the wrong direction
> > > (compression, is it were) from push-starting, they can fold or
> > kink,
> > > causing a weak spot and bingo, failure.
> > >
> >
>
>
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