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Re: sudden car death (fuel?)



I didn't realize before I took the thing out that it only fits in one 
direction anyhow
since each end has two different size bolts...

Cheapass Ron wrote:

> Yes!  they are usually directional.  Can't tell you
> how yours will fit...mine has the seam on the outlet
> side.
> 
> Ron
> --- geordy <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
>> I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a
>> bosch....
>> It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10
>> cheaper than
>> the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with this!
>> 
>> Now, my question, are these filters directional or
>> is does
>> it matter which way I hook it up?  Should the seam
>> face the
>> front or the rear of the car?
>> 
>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, there is a timing mark under the inspection
>> 
>> cover
>> 
>>> on the tranny.  there is also a 6 deg mark,  which
>>> looks like a chisel mark.  Just to the left of
>> 
>> that,
>> 
>>> viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a
>> 
>> little
>> 
>>> square protrusion (there's also one to the right,
>> 
>> a
>> 
>>> little farther away - you want the one to the
>> 
>> left). 
>> 
>>> Set the engine there...easier to remove the plugs
>> 
>> and
>> 
>>> crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front end
>> 
>> of
>> 
>>> the crankshaft.  Line that squarish mark up to the
>>> indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole
>> 
>> (you
>> 
>>> have to remove the whole green plug, not just the
>>> little clear thing in the middle, good luck).  
>> 
>> Then
>> 
>>> check the timing mark on the cam...which should be
>> 
>> at
>> 
>>> 12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on the
>> 
>> inner
>> 
>>> cover.  That should tell you whether the cam
>> 
>> timing is
>> 
>>> on or off.  
>>> 
>>> AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a gauge
>> 
>> and
>> 
>>> a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not in
>>> every garage.  I'd guess the next easiest thing to
>> 
>> to
>> 
>>> is remove one injector, preferably all, point it
>> 
>> into
>> 
>>> a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
>>> airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
>>> sufficiently...this procedure is in the Bentley.  
>>> Cracking loose a fuel line fitting from the filter
>>> could tell you a little something, or maybe even
>>> removing the return line to the tank and checking
>> 
>> flow
>> 
>>> there...that on 2nd though could be valuable
>> 
>> because
>> 
>>> that fuel has already been past the pressure
>>> regulator.
>>> 
>>> You do have a fat spark, right?
>>> 
>>> And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at least a
>>> Haynes...right?  No shit, the Bentley is super
>>> valuable.
>>> 
>>> Good luck, let me know how you progress.
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel
>>>> 
>> pump...but
>> 
>>>> you
>>>> 
>>>>> BTDT, right?  
>>>> 
>>>> Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear the
>>>> fuel pump.  Aside from 
>>>> that,
>>>> I crank the motor and I think I still here the
>>> 
>> fuel
>> 
>>>> pump.  What is the 
>>>> easy way
>>>> to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>>> 
>>>>> Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>>>> cam mark lines up?  That'll tell you whether
>>>> 
>> your
>> 
>>>> cam
>>>> 
>>>>> timing is off.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on the
>>>> cam?
>>>> And see if what lines up?  Is there a mark under
>>>> that
>>>> inspection plug on the trans?
>>>> 
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> --- Geordy Rostad
>>>> 
>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?  I
>>>>> 
>>>> just
>>>> 
>>>>>> replace my injector 
>>>>>> seals btw.
>>>>>> Could it be a fuel filter?  Maybe I went over a
>>>>> 
>>>> bump
>>>> 
>>>>>> and dislodged a 
>>>>>> grain of muck and clogged
>>>>>> it?  Could the fuel pump shaft separate from
>>>>> 
>> the
>> 
>>>>>> pump mechanism so that 
>>>>>> it sounds like
>>>>>> it's spraying fuel but actually not...?   What
>>>>> 
>> is
>> 
>>>>>> the easy method to 
>>>>>> check fuel flow?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I put the new airboot on it almost started
>>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>>>> then died so I don't 
>>>>>> think it's spark
>>>>>> or timing.  It only does the almost start and
>>>>> 
>>>> then
>>>> 
>>>>>> die thing after 
>>>>>> having sat for quite a
>>>>>> while.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Geordy
>>>>>> '88 jetta 16v
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> geordy wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I want to replace the t-belt anyways since I
>>>>>> 
>>>> have
>>>> 
>>>>>> absolutely no idea 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> how long it has been on there.
>>>>>>> BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road, my
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> scirocco did the same 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thing to my brother one
>>>>>>> time, he hit a bump (or jump) in the road and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> threw the timing off and 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> it ran shitty all the way home.
>>>>>>> Mine just died, I wonder what's up...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I put the airbox/intake stuff back together
>>>>>> 
>> and
>> 
>>>>>> the car still wouldn't 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> start.  I left all of the other
>>>>>>> belts off however...  I wouldn't think that
>>>>>> 
>>>> would
>>>> 
>>>>>> be a problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 16v Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Doesn't have to be that huge!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you were able to see daylight in there,
>>>>>>> 
>> you
>> 
>>>>>> have about 0 chance 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> that the car will run.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That's your problem from the sound of it. 
>>>>>>> 
>> Try
> 
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