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Re: sudden car death (fuel?)



16v '88 jetta

I was thinking it'd go toward the back just because that looks more correct
like a bullet in a gun or something.  (faster than a speeding 
honda...more powerful
than a...)

Eric L Ellis wrote:

>What kind of car?  16v?  The seam goes toward the front.
>
>Eric
>
>On Fri, 11 May 2001 00:26:42 -0700 geordy <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>writes:
>
>>I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a bosch....
>>It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10 cheaper than
>>the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with this!
>>
>>Now, my question, are these filters directional or is does
>>it matter which way I hook it up?  Should the seam face the
>>front or the rear of the car?
>>
>>Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, there is a timing mark under the inspection cover
>>>on the tranny.  there is also a 6 deg mark,  which
>>>looks like a chisel mark.  Just to the left of that,
>>>viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a little
>>>square protrusion (there's also one to the right, a
>>>little farther away - you want the one to the left). 
>>>Set the engine there...easier to remove the plugs and
>>>crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front end of
>>>the crankshaft.  Line that squarish mark up to the
>>>indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole (you
>>>have to remove the whole green plug, not just the
>>>little clear thing in the middle, good luck).   Then
>>>check the timing mark on the cam...which should be at
>>>12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on the inner
>>>cover.  That should tell you whether the cam timing is
>>>on or off.  
>>>
>>>AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a gauge and
>>>a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not in
>>>every garage.  I'd guess the next easiest thing to to
>>>is remove one injector, preferably all, point it into
>>>a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
>>>airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
>>>sufficiently...this procedure is in the Bentley.  
>>>Cracking loose a fuel line fitting from the filter
>>>could tell you a little something, or maybe even
>>>removing the return line to the tank and checking flow
>>>there...that on 2nd though could be valuable because
>>>that fuel has already been past the pressure
>>>regulator.
>>>
>>>You do have a fat spark, right?
>>>
>>>And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at least a
>>>Haynes...right?  No shit, the Bentley is super
>>>valuable.
>>>
>>>Good luck, let me know how you progress.
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>--- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel pump...but
>>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>>BTDT, right?  
>>>>>
>>>>Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear the
>>>>fuel pump.  Aside from 
>>>>that,
>>>>I crank the motor and I think I still here the fuel
>>>>pump.  What is the 
>>>>easy way
>>>>to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>>>
>>>>>Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>>>>cam mark lines up?  That'll tell you whether your
>>>>>
>>>>cam
>>>>
>>>>>timing is off.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on the
>>>>cam?
>>>>And see if what lines up?  Is there a mark under
>>>>that
>>>>inspection plug on the trans?
>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>--- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?  I
>>>>>>
>>>>just
>>>>
>>>>>>replace my injector 
>>>>>>seals btw.
>>>>>>Could it be a fuel filter?  Maybe I went over a
>>>>>>
>>>>bump
>>>>
>>>>>>and dislodged a 
>>>>>>grain of muck and clogged
>>>>>>it?  Could the fuel pump shaft separate from the
>>>>>>pump mechanism so that 
>>>>>>it sounds like
>>>>>>it's spraying fuel but actually not...?   What is
>>>>>>the easy method to 
>>>>>>check fuel flow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I put the new airboot on it almost started
>>>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>>then died so I don't 
>>>>>>think it's spark
>>>>>>or timing.  It only does the almost start and
>>>>>>
>>>>then
>>>>
>>>>>>die thing after 
>>>>>>having sat for quite a
>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Geordy
>>>>>>'88 jetta 16v
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>geordy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I want to replace the t-belt anyways since I
>>>>>>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>>>absolutely no idea 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>how long it has been on there.
>>>>>>>BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road, my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>scirocco did the same 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thing to my brother one
>>>>>>>time, he hit a bump (or jump) in the road and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>threw the timing off and 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>it ran shitty all the way home.
>>>>>>>Mine just died, I wonder what's up...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I put the airbox/intake stuff back together and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>the car still wouldn't 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>start.  I left all of the other
>>>>>>>belts off however...  I wouldn't think that
>>>>>>>
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>>>be a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>16v Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doesn't have to be that huge!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you were able to see daylight in there, you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>have about 0 chance 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>that the car will run.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's your problem from the sound of it.  Try
>>>>>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>start the car with 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a new one on there before you kill yourself
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>checking the timing belt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And why you going through so much trouble to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>check the belt this 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>way?  Couldn't you just have taken the upper
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>cover off without doing 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>all that other shit?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At 01:17 AM 5/9/01 , Geordy Rostad wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's not THAT large, but when I removed the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>pipe
>>>>
>>>>>>between the two 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>boots I saw
>>>>>>>>>daylight...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Brett Van Sprewenburg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Also, I have noticed a big tear in the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>throttle body air boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Just so I can be the first.... :)
>>>>>>>>>>But this is probably the reason your car
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>won't
>>>>
>>>>>>run, or start, or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>what-ever...
>>>>>>>>>>Any tear in the boot is likely to cause
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>running
>>>>
>>>>>>problems, a large
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>one will cause the car not to run at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>all...probably got your culprit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>>>>>==Brett
>>>>>>>>>>\/  '84 Scirocco (ITB racer 2B) | "Hot VW's,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>take two home. They're 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>small"
>>>>>>>>>>\/\/ '88 Scirocco 16v (Show), '92 Passat 16v
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>(Winter+) | - 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>brett@netacc.net
>>>>>>>>>>
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