I weighed a stock one at 11 lbs and my lightened one at 7.5 I also have a 02A/J one that weighs in at 13 lbs now instead of 17.5 jasin more go fast stuff on the way -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org