Re: 88 16v slow crank/no start when hot

["Allyn" <amalventano1@home.com>]

i had a diesel starter on mine, thats the one that went bad actually (heat soak).
al

Allyn Malventano, ET1(SS), USN
87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6) +++Repairs pending+++
87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Wagner" <scirocco_88_16v@hotmail.com>
To: <danws@tampabay.rr.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: 88 16v slow crank/no start when hot


> Tell me more about the diesel starter, part # please.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 88 16v
> 87 16v
> 86 8v (sold to neighbor)
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Dan" <danws@tampabay.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: <danws@tampabay.rr.com>
> >To: "roc \(E-mail\)" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: 88 16v slow crank/no start when hot
> >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:41:23 -0400
> >
> >In my experience I've had with my Roc, which is similar to yours, it was a
> >combination of the ground/starter. I added (2) big-fat battery cables as
> >grounds (I was too lazy to pull the tranny out to get to that damned 
> >strap).
> >One ground goes straight to the car frame, the other goes to the diesel
> >starter I put in. heh. I don't have ANY problems starting it now,
> >hot/cold/whatever...
> >
> >HTH,
> >Dan
> >Tam-pa, FL
> >'87 16v 'Rocco
> >'81 Rabbit Sport Truck
> >'00 Jetta
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >[mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Jeremiah Gilmore
> >Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 13:12
> >To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: 88 16v slow crank/no start when hot
> >
> >
> >I have and 88 16v with a long list of problems.
> >I am the second owner and have always had problems.
> >any help will be greatly appreciated
> >
> >I don't want to overwhelm the group with the whole list a once.
> >so I will start with the one that bugs me the most.
> >
> >when hot the car has trouble starting, the crank is really slow
> >the severity is relative to the temperature
> >
> >according to the oil temp gauge:
> >Cold - Starts on first Crank
> >90-95C - Normal starts fine cranks normal speed - Starts on first Crank
> >100C - Slow crank Most Likely will start
> >105C - very slow crank if it doesn't catch in the first crank forget it
> >110+C - not a chance
> >
> >The car will pop start and run with no problem
> >
> >when running if it gets over 105 it may be unstable rpms drop at idle
> >at 110+ it is most definitely unstable and you have to keep the rpm over 3k
> >to keep from stalling and even that is a challenge
> >
> >Putting the heater on defrost with the blower on 1st speed helps keep the
> >temp down and the blower brings the Idle up to +-1900 rpm
> >Modes other than defrost not so effective
> >
> >The slow crank and successful pop starting rule out vapor lock if I am not
> >mistaken.
> >
> >I suspect that this is more than one problem
> >A. the overheating
> >B. the slow crank as a result of the overheating
> >
> >any Ideas?
> >
> >Best Regards
> >Jeremiah Gilmore
> >
> >
> >
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