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RE: Rear 3 point belts (was GT2)
That's what I love about buying used cars - all the change you dig out of
them. With the advent of the one and two-dollar coin, some of my more
recent prucahses have refunded me up to %50 percent of their price in
coinage... :)
Seriously, though - I've been interested in 3 point belts for the rear so
that I can strap my son into the back seat (he's now to big for the x-belt
booster, and has to have a 3-point belt for the booster, so I keep him up
front with me...)
Drew
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Lauri Pettai wrote:
> Ok, I'll skip that test... :)
>
> Mine where reel pelts for sure and the '87 GTX
> was from Germay (at least I found pennies for
> more than 2DM from there when I was stripping
> it).
>
> Lauri!
> '84 1.8 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> http://www.ttu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> I finally added nothing new to my site!
>
> > The rear 3 point belts in my 91 UK model are not reel belts. They are fixed
> > without retractors and you adapt them to size with clips.
> >
> > They are excellent because it means i can strap my 6 yr old to the rear seat
> > giving only a small amount of movement which has come in handy when i got
> > hit from behind on the side she was sitting rather hard (I'll post the
> > piccies one day) and even though the seat/shelf/floorplan moved forward she
> > didn't have a scratch.
> >
> > I've never seen a UK model with rear reel belts only fronts
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > >From: "Lauri Pettai" <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee>
> > >To: "drew" <drew@dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca>
> > >CC: "Dirk Schneider" <Dirk@Scirocco2.de>, "'Scirocco List'"
> > ><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Subject: RE: GT2 - a few more pics
> > >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:40:57 +0200
> > >
> > >Gotta go and do the crash testing...
> > >
> > >To be exact they are not any more on my
> > >car and are sitting in the carage
> > >and the carage is 50 miles away so I'll
> > >go there at the end of the month and
> > >do some investigation on them, but
> > >dimentionally they were the same maybe
> > >this lockig mechanism is adjustable to
> > >work in horisontal position also?
> > >
> > >I removed them when I re-carpeted my roof
> > >with black leather (nice).
> > >
> > >Lauri!
> > >'84 1.8 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> > >http://www.ttu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> > >I finally added nothing new to my site!
> > >
> > > > It's interesting that you've found the belts to be the same (at least
> > > > dimensionally?)
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that the big problem with the rear belts is that the
> > > > retractor is mounted up under the rear parcel shelf horizontally, while
> > > > the retractor on the front belt is mounted vertically - is this not
> > > > correct? It has been some time since I have looked at the Euro version
> > >of
> > > > ETKA.
> > > >
> > > > The result would be that the front retractor may not function correctly
> > > > (or at all) in the event of a collision when installed in the rear.
> > > >
> > > > This is referenced by a subtle difference in the part number from front
> > >to
> > > > rear:
> > > >
> > > > front (north american, 53-F-000 001 >) 533 857 705E
> > > > rear (euro, 53-F-000 001 >) 533 857 805
> > > >
> > > > Now, I don't have the EURO ETKA installed on my machine, so I can't
> > >verify
> > > > the part no for the euro front belt, but I'm not sure there is a
> > > > difference.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps Lauri you could find a volunteer to sit in the back and do some
> > > > testing while you drive on bumby roads and smash into a few things to
> > > > ensure the belt locks up properly? :) :)
> > > >
> > > > Drew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Lauri Pettai wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > When I was tearing apart my '87 16v for my 16v conversion
> > > > > I also found the rear 3point seatbelts and thought that
> > > > > it would be a nice modification. But after a little
> > > > > more investigating I found out that the rear belts are
> > > > > exactly the same as front belts.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also found that under the leather on C-pillar and boot
> > > > > are all neccesery mounting points, so it was an plug'n'play upgrade to
> > >get them in, so if you like it then juat get a
> > > > > set of original belts and just screw then into their place! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice seatbelts, too, Dirk. I'm still in the market if you ever find
> > > > > > some... (That aren't attatched to a gourgeous specimen of a car like
> > >those
> > > > > > are, that is... :) )
> > > > > > > www.GT-2.de/GT2.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Lauri!
> > > > > '84 1.8 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> > > > > http://www.ttu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> > > > > I finally added nothing new to my site!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Drew MacPherson, Network Analyst, University of Guelph
> > > >
> > > > drew@dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca | visit the Massey-Harris page:
> > > > http://dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca/~drew | http://m-h.cs.uoguelph.ca
> > >
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Drew MacPherson, Network Analyst, University of Guelph
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