RE: Rear 3 point belts (was GT2)

[drew <drew@dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca>]

I would be interested in pics/part numbers for this setup...  Although I
have never seen the rear 3point belts outside of ETKA, they definitely
look like retractors - and the part no. is very close to the front,
suggesting only a subtle difference in between the front and rear parts.
Perhaps your belts are an add-on?

Drew


On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Andy Holmes wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Been reading this thread
> 
> The rear 3 point belts in my 91 UK model are not reel belts. They are fixed 
> without retractors and you adapt them to size with clips.
> 
> They are excellent because it means i can strap my 6 yr old to the rear seat 
> giving only a small amount of movement which has come in handy when i got 
> hit from behind on the side she was sitting rather hard (I'll post the 
> piccies one day) and even though the seat/shelf/floorplan moved forward she 
> didn't have a scratch.
> 
> I've never seen a UK model with rear reel belts only fronts
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> >From: "Lauri Pettai" <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee>
> >To: "drew" <drew@dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca>
> >CC: "Dirk Schneider" <Dirk@Scirocco2.de>,        "'Scirocco List'" 
> ><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: GT2 - a few more pics
> >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:40:57 +0200
> >
> >Gotta go and do the crash testing...
> >
> >To be exact they are not any more on my
> >car and are sitting in the carage
> >and the carage is 50 miles away so I'll
> >go there at the end of the month and
> >do some investigation on them, but
> >dimentionally they were the same maybe
> >this lockig mechanism is adjustable to
> >work in horisontal position also?
> >
> >I removed them when I re-carpeted my roof
> >with black leather (nice).
> >
> >Lauri!
> >'84 1.8 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> >http://www.ttu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> >I finally added nothing new to my site!
> >
> > > It's interesting that you've found the belts to be the same (at least
> > > dimensionally?)
> > >
> > > My understanding is that the big problem with the rear belts is that the
> > > retractor is mounted up under the rear parcel shelf horizontally, while
> > > the retractor on the front belt is mounted vertically - is this not
> > > correct?  It has been some time since I have looked at the Euro version 
> >of
> > > ETKA.
> > >
> > > The result would be that the front retractor may not function correctly
> > > (or at all) in the event of a collision when installed in the rear.
> > >
> > > This is referenced by a subtle difference in the part number from front 
> >to
> > > rear:
> > >
> > > front (north american, 53-F-000 001 >) 533 857 705E
> > > rear (euro, 53-F-000 001 >) 533 857 805
> > >
> > > Now, I don't have the EURO ETKA installed on my machine, so I can't 
> >verify
> > > the part no for the euro front belt, but I'm not sure there is a
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > Perhaps Lauri you could find a volunteer to sit in the back and do some
> > > testing while you drive on bumby roads and smash into a few things to
> > > ensure the belt locks up properly? :) :)
> > >
> > > Drew
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Lauri Pettai wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > When I was tearing apart my '87 16v for my 16v conversion
> > > > I also found the rear 3point seatbelts and thought that
> > > > it would be a nice modification. But after a little
> > > > more investigating I found out that the rear belts are
> > > > exactly the same as front belts.
> > > >
> > > > I also found that under the leather on C-pillar and boot
> > > > are all neccesery mounting points, so it was an plug'n'play upgrade to 
> >get them in, so if you like it then juat get a
> > > > set of original belts and just screw then into their place! :)
> > > >
> > > > > Nice seatbelts, too, Dirk.  I'm still in the market if you ever find
> > > > > some... (That aren't attatched to a gourgeous specimen of a car like 
> >those
> > > > > are, that is... :) )
> > > > > > www.GT-2.de/GT2.htm
> > > >
> > > > Lauri!
> > > > '84 1.8 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> > > > http://www.ttu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> > > > I finally added nothing new to my site!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Drew MacPherson, Network Analyst, University of Guelph
> > >
> > > drew@dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca           |  visit the Massey-Harris page:
> > > http://dyermaker.cs.uoguelph.ca/~drew   |  http://m-h.cs.uoguelph.ca
> >
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