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RE: It just stops!
It also could be a bad fuel pump ground or relay. Mine used to do this when
it got warmed up it would short out. By the time I was off on the side of
the road it would have cooled down enough to fire back up...Ok so it was on
my Nissan pickup...its still a thought.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
[mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Randy Block
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:08 PM
To: 'Brian Honnold'; 'r.evans@mail.parklanecoll.ac.uk'
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: It just stops!
Ok, here's another thought,
Something similar happened to me about 4 yrs ago with my old Cosmos 81S.
I would be driving along and it would just stop running (like it ran out of
gas). I'd get to the side of the rd/highway, try to start it and it would
fire right up. I'd pull back onto the freeway and she'd run like a top.
Sometimes this would happen 3-4 times in one day and sometimes it wouldn't
happen for a month. I finally took it to a local VW tuner (wont name name's)
and they charged me over $300 to NOT fix the problem (they did re-wire my
frequency valve, as if it needed it).
I thought it was fixed, but a week later it did it to me again. I took it
down to my uncle (a dodge mechanic) and within 5 min. he diagnosed the
problem.
Here it is:
My gas tank had some dirt/rust/debris that got pulled from the tank and
punched it's way through the fuel filter, cloging up the fuel
distributor/injectors.
The solution:
Replaced the ENTIRE fuel system and accumulator, etc.. with one from a Jetta
(with a 30 day guarantee), and a new fuel pump and 4 new injectors.
Pulled the fuel tank (a bitch) and had it chemically cleaned/coated.
Flushed the chassis fuel lines with Kerosene.
Never had a problem with the car again.
An easy way to check if this is a problem is to take off the old fuel
filter, or find it if you haven't thrown it away yet and tap the exit end of
the filer on a white towel and see if any debris comes out. If you get
debris than your system has been compromised if not, it may have just been a
clogged filter.
I truly hope this is not the cause of your problems, it was expensive and
very time consuming to correct.
I've been told that it only takes one tank of dirty (fuel truck is filling
up station tanks while you are filling up your car) gas to clog a brand new
filter.
HTH
Randy B
81 (Mars) Scirocco S - Techtonics Tuning 1847cc 8V
81 (Cosmos) Scirocco S - future Oettinger 16V project
87 Jetta GLI 16V - daily driver
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Honnold [SMTP:bhonnold@pac-cap.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:30 PM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: It just stops!
hey perfeser Berk?
If you had debris in the tank....wouldn't the next step be a clogged
filter?
For your and anyone else who cares edification, a clogged filter
acts
exactly like he is decribing. You drive merrily along around town
and
everything is fine, then you get out on the open road and get up to
50-75
MPH, the motor demands more fuel, and can't get it so the motor
bogs....if
you keep pushing it, it stalls.....you coast along with the clutch
in, then
at a safe speed drop it into 2nd or 3rd and let the clutch out.....
Walaaaa your running again for a while, till you get up to speed
again...repeat until home. Then change filter.
Now, in the case we have before us, knowing that the owner has a new
fuel
filter, I would guess as you have that it's an ignition related
problem of
some sort. Either a bad electrical connection of possibly oil in
the
distributor.
BcH
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of T Berk
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:20 PM
> To: r.evans
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: It just stops!
>
>
> > "r.evans" wrote:
> >
> > I'm new to the group so sorry if this problem's been listed
loads of
> > times before but... I've just bought a 1988 1.6 GT. It's only
had one
> > owner and it has a full VAG service history on 94,000 miles.
Just
> > recently it's developed a nasty habit of cutting out whenever it
feels
> > like it. I'll be going along quite happily at 40, 50, 60, 70+
mph and
> > then it will stall. If I leave the clutch out whilst moving it
> > jump-starts but continues to judder down the road. With the
clutch in
> > the engine cuts completely out. If I stop, the engine starts
> > immediately and I'm on my way again.
> >
> > This happened to me whilst over-taking up a hill yesterday!
Crapped me
> > self a bit so need the problem sorting and me seats cleaning!
> >
> > Cheers for any advice
>
>
>
> As I don't have a chance to learn about late model Carburetor cars
I can
> only wonder if your car has points or electronic Ign? [I'm in
N.A.]
>
> If it has solid state points with a Hall Sender then I would
verify the
> plug and socket on the distributor, as well as the wires inside
the
> Dist- they get crispy over time, and the socket gets banged around
a
> lot- intermittent contact and boom- your symptoms.
>
> Also goes to why it only happens under certain conditions.
>
> btw- sorry guys, this doesn't really sound like a clogged filter.
Maybe
> debris in the tank, but...
>
> hth,
> TBerk
>
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