are they too loud without a cat? Ive been looking at one of these as a cheap solution to dumping my crappy magnaflow....does it have the correct hangers? Shannon '87 16V Seattle http://www.geocities.com/dasstrega/default.htm -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org