RE: muffler for a 16v

["Neal Tovsen" <sixteen.volt@gte.net>]

I think you've found the tricks that make it difficult. The stock exhaust is
a metric diameter (something like 50mm...I don't remember) that comes out to
2.125". It's difficult to find something that will just bolt right on.
Supposedly, Eurosport make something, but I've gotten confusing messages
from my local tuner about that, and whatever it is, it was on back order a
month ago. You might check into it.

Just over a year ago, I replaced the stock muffler with another stock
muffler. I like the sound, but for some reason, the thing got a hole in it
after only a year (NO winter driving, either). It also cost $170 just for
the muffler!

This time, I ended up taking the "redneck muffler shop" approach. I got a
2.25" Dynomax UltraFlo welded to my stock tubing. The guy did a pretty
decent job making it fit. He put a good clean bead around the pipe to fill
the slight gap. I had them weld a simple single angled tip to the muffler at
an angle to match the rear skirt cut-out. It turned out pretty damn good, I
think. Total cost was somewhere less than $150. Oh, and they of course had
to weld hangers on to the muffler, too.

I don't particularly care for the sound of the UltraFlo. It sounds nice at
idle, but it is fairly loud and does get a little "blatty" at high RPM. My
understanding is that this is due to the straight-thru design, and that the
SuperTurbo might be a better choice, since it has s-curves inside the
muffler. The plus side is that the UltraFlo did seem to actually improve the
power a little.

I'm sorry to say that unless someone has any better ideas, or the Eurosport
thing is for real, you'll have to either go with a whole system or have
someone weld a 2.25" muffler in place...

Neal
88 16v

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> Subject: muffler for a 16v
>
>
> Okay folks,
>
> I've been poking around for quite a few weeks now trying to figure out
> what to do about my rotted out muffler and so finally I've decided to post
> to the list for advice.
>
> My stock 16v exhaust has a stock muffler that has bit the dust. I'd like
> to replace it with something that is -quiet-, with a low bassy tone, and
> flows as well or better than stock. I do not desire to replace my whole
> exhaust system, because thats expensive compared to $50 or so for a
> muffler.
>
> I've been looking at a cheap oval-shaped dynomax super turbo, since
> they're like $34 from jegs.com. Stainless would be nice, I suppose, but I
> can't justify spending the money when I might want to replace my exhaust
> later...
>
> So... I know this has been gone over before, but what is the diameter of
> the 16v stock exhaust? I got a pair of calipers and measured in several
> places, all of them were 2.125". Does this mean a 2.25" muffler won't fit.
> Could the 2.125" stock pipe go inside the 2.25" muffler pipe and be
> clamped on? What is the size I should be shopping for?
>
> I also need to find a way to hang it. I'd prefer to find a place that will
> sell me a muffler with hangers for my '87 16v already welded on in the
> right places, rather than deal with a redneck muffler shop... I've tried
> TT but they claim to sell mufflers only as replacements for those used in
> their exhausts, not stock exhausts.
>
> I'd prefer a tip that looks like the stock tip, but I hear these can be
> pretty hard to find.
>
> Anyway, any help would be appreciated. Part numbers and exact dimensions
> would be the biggest help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Toby
>
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