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RE: Done with VW's, I've had it.



Dude, a Camaro? (cold chill) Come on, man... Why do you suppose that you can find them for "dirt" [cheap]? 

You're obviously frustrated for good reason. Your car is apparently just a hoopty, plain and simple. As much as your experience is real, the fact is that all VWs are not like that. I've been daily driving the Warpig for three years and rallying it the whole while. The reliability is impressive whether it be for commuting to work or hustling down a trail at 80mph. How many crap VWs have you owned, anyway. Or is this your first (albeit horrible) experience.

As for your non-VW choices here are my comments:

Mazda 323 GTX: -awesome car! If I was starting another project this might be it. In modified form it offers AWD, excellent horsepower for cheap, good reliability, and a great story to tell about it, too. However, they have very weak transmissions. Given the rarity of the car you'll pay up the ying yang for any GTX-specific parts. Forget about the VW annoyances, you haven't seen anything yet!..

E30 BMW: -another great choice. The quality far surpasses VWs of the same era. Parts are easy to come by but you're still going to *pay*. A decent entry-level Bimmer is also going to cost you at least double or triple of a good A1 chassis VW.

Nissan 280ZX: I hope you like chassis restorations and fixing lots of vacume leaks (turbo models). I love the simplicity of the 240s and 260s but the 280s are the same archaic design plus lots of complicated add ons. They're an end of life edition that will drive you up the wall if it isn't a pristine example to begin with.

Mazda RX-7: Buy a Turbo in fine condition and you'll have a good time. It'll guzzle gas like a mofo but... at least it is better than guzzling gas in a non-Turbo (150hp) lead slead. I don't know about replacement prices but you'll pay a lot more to get into one of these than the VW.

Mustang/Camaro: Here are your gas guzzling, poorly assembled, foul handling throwbacks to the Cretaceous period. If your Scirocco is anywhere near as unreliable as these boats then just chuck it and start with a fresh one.

And Gary, you're neither a hick or a greaseball... :^)

Of all of these choices I think you'd be happiest in the long run with the BMW. The Mazda will also treat you well. Good luck, bro!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Gary Huff
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:31 PM
> To: Timothy A Reed
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Done with VW's, I've had it.
> 
> 
> Timothy A Reed wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:32:03 -0400 scirocco86@home.com writes:
> > 
> > > Like I said, I'm thinking mazda 323 GTX, 3rd genmustang 3rd 
> gen camaro,
> > e30
> > > chassis BMW, 2nd Gen turbo RX-7, and maybe a older 280zx.
> > 
> > I'm not trying to flame here, but take another look at these options.
> > Your concern was reliability and cheap, non-esoteric parts, 
> correct?  The
> > 323 GTX, while a very cool little car, is not very common, and I doubt
> > the parts (excepting those which interchange with the ordinary 323) are
> > common or cheap.  The parts on the BMW are very expensive (I had a e21,
> > and even parts for that were expensive).  Parts on the RX-7 are also
> > going to be expensive (at least for the engine stuff), and good luck
> > trying to find one that's been properly maintained.  The 280ZX, Camaro,
> > and Mustang will have reasonably inexpensive parts, but, again, I don't
> > think you'll find one that's been properly maintained.  There are a lot
> > of beater 280Z's out there (one was in my family for a while).  Are you
> > sure you've thought this through with your specific wants/needs in mind?
> 
> That I have. I'm leaning towards a 3rd generation camaro. They are a bit
> heavy, but they can be had for dirt around here, and parts are
> ridiculously common/cheap. I can deal with a lot less gas mileage if I'm
> not spending an equal investment in time and money for parts being under
> the hood of this car. 
>  
> > -Timothy A. Reed, Esq.
> > t.a.reed.esq@juno.com
> > Moses approached the thick darkness where God was
> > Exodus 20:21
> > 
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