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RE: Moment of weakness...



Incidentally, I'm also having problems with my '82's 1.7.  It won't idle
when cold, and when warm, at constant throttle and load, it surges.  I
disconnected the O2 sensor, and it ran rough, so I reconnected it.  What
effect should I see (or what am I looking for) when I disconnect the
frequency valve?

Aaron
'82 Scirocco
'84 Scirocco
'70 Bug - Hibernating
'87 Jeep Cherokee 4.0


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Wm. Josiah Erikson
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 6:06 PM
> To: Brian C Barrows
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Moment of weakness...
>
>
> You shouldn't have an xfer pump, like you said. Have you tried
> disconnecting the O2 sensor? If this was my car, I would start by
> disconnecting the O2 sensor and frequency valve. If that didn't do it,
> then I would replace the warm-up regulator that's bolted to the block.
> Then I would do the fuel distributor. Then there would only
> be two things
> left - the fuel pump and the fuel pressure accumulator (don't
> see how it
> could be that, really)
> 	-Josiah
>
> '84 GTi
> http://bork.hampshire.edu/josiah
>
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Brian C Barrows wrote:
>
> > The engine in question is an 8V 1.7 with the following
> modifications:
> > cold air snorkle, K&N, N-Speed TB, bored out plenum,
> Autotech G-grind
> > cam, Autotech Tri-Y manifold and TT exhaust.  I also have a fuel/air
> > gauge hooked up to the O2 sensor, but it's in parallel, so
> that shouldn't
> > cause a problem.  In the past 1 1/2 years I have done the
> normal tune up
> > stuff, along with replaceing the fuel pressure regulator,
> injectors, O2
> > sensor, injector seals, and vacuum lines (all of the ones I
> could find,
> > anyway...).  I have also replaced all of the grounds in the engine
> > compartment that I could find.
> >
> > The symptoms are a fuel ratio that cycles lean at one or
> two cycles per
> > second.  It tends to run better with some sort of eletrical
> load on the
> > system (such as the lights.  If I turn them off it cycles
> again.  Also,
> > if I flash the high beams, once they are off it runs
> roughly for a few
> > seconds and stabilizes.) but sometimes runs rough anyway.
> It also tends
> > to run rough after winding the engine out a bit.  Normally
> to make the
> > bucking less noticeble, I end up cranking up the CO levels
> and the idle.
> >
> >
> > I have asked this in the past and seveal people suggested
> the transfer
> > pump.  According to the Bentley diagrams, I don't have one
> of those.
> > However, this car had been totalled and has several other
> Sciroccos in
> > it, and it's possible I got a later fuel tank with the
> transfer pump.  Is
> > there an easy way to find this without going in the tank?
> Go under the
> > seat and find that panel and look for an extra wire?
> >
> > I really want help with this, 'cause I have sworn to NEVER
> get rid of
> > this car.  (I'm known for saying "I'll get divorced before
> I trade Fritz
> > in for a Buick wagon!")  Any help will be much appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > B.
> >
> > '82 Scirocco (a.k.a. "Fritz")
> > '85 Jetta
> > '87 Porsche 944
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:01:47 -0400 "S.Coleman"
> <deadbolt@mindspring.com>
> > writes:
> > > I've been there with this problem,....first tell me if this is a
> > > stock 8v or
> > > what?  I just stripped a 85 8v and I have tons of parts
> left.  (many
> > > already
> > > shipped to fellow listers).  Let me know and I can save you
> > > money......Plus
> > > we (the list) can diagnose anything.  My 88 16v was in a
> junk yard
> > > 14 months
> > > ago when I found it.  No wiring, no motor....nothing.
>   I have
> > > driving
> > > it for 3 months now....Believe me,...anything is possible.
> > > (especially if
> > > you are half the mechanic I am)....and I SUCK!
> > > Seriously though,...what kind of car we talking about here?
> > > Chris
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian C Barrows <ferret100@juno.com>
> > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:22 PM
> > > Subject: Moment of weakness...
> > >
> > >
> > > >Warning...  Incessant whining follows...
> > > >
> > > >I don't know what I'm going to do anymore.  I still have
> this "as
> > > of yet"
> > > >undiagnosible problem with my 'Roc, and it's really becoming a
> > > drag.  I
> > > >have a constantly fluctuating fuel mixture, which
> results in alot
> > > of
> > > >bucking (although not as much when the lights are on).
> I think it
> > > may be
> > > >electrical, and I have been replacing alot of the wiring and
> > > grounds.  I
> > > >have some more rewiring to do, but at this point I'm not
> sure it'll
> > > make
> > > >a difference.  If that doesn't solve the problem, I had
> planned on
> > > >testing each and every fuel injection component, but I'm
> starting
> > > to
> > > >wonder if I'll ever have the time.
> > > >
> > > >I love my 'Roc, but I don't know how much longer I can keep this
> > > up.  It
> > > >drives, but it's not fun when it's doing this.  Plus, I
> can't even
> > > get 20
> > > >mpg commuting!  (If I don't have the CO cranked, it runs even
> > > worse.)
> > > >Other priorities in life are starting to take over (I
> want to buy a
> > > >house) and I can't keep sinking money into this.  I
> don't want to
> > > sell
> > > >Fritz, but I'm running out of options.  And I just installed new
> > > >Bilsteins and H&Rs...
> > > >
> > > >I could probably get a decent amount of money for the
> car if sold
> > > as a
> > > >parts car.  I've got many thousand dollars in goodies put on it,
> > > but I
> > > >can't bear the thought of it getting stripped.
> > > >
> > > ><wimper>
> > > >
> > > >B.
> > > >
> > > >'82 Scirocco (a.k.a. "Fritz")
> > > >'85 Jetta
> > > >'87 Porsche 944
> > > >
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> > '82 Scirocco (a.k.a. "Fritz")
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