RE: Shelby Dodge Lancer, oh my!

[Gary Huff <ghuff@htech.com>]

Yes you could, if its a naturally aspirated one, maybe even if it is an
older turbo one. There was one of those that used to float around Elgin IL,
it was incredibly rusted, and sounded like it was about to die. Man, that
thing would lay rubber into second though.... I heard something about those
old early turbo Supra's. Someone told me that they have a manifold leakdown
valve, instead of a wastegate. I hear that with age, they get clogged or
something, and end up pushing boost parallel with the engines RPM. That
would explain why that one laid rubber into second, but I do not know.
Anyone care to comment?
					Gary Huff
-----Original Message-----
From: Snow, Jason [mailto:SnowJ@aetna.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 10:12 AM
To: 'Gary Huff'; Mr. Eddy; Neal Tovsen
Cc: UrGTI@aol.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: Shelby Dodge Lancer, oh my!


This car is a piece of junk, not taking car of well at all...That's the
looks of it anyway, it looks circa early 80's...We shall see, the
inevitable...let ya's know...Should I donwshift around those curves or brake
(JUST KIDDING, JUST KIDDING)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Huff [mailto:ghuff@htech.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 9:58 AM
To: Mr. Eddy; Neal Tovsen
Cc: Snow, Jason; UrGTI@aol.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: Shelby Dodge Lancer, oh my!



My cousin has a snow white 89 Turbo Supra. That thing is Badass. It may be
heavy, but it corners well, and with some turbo mods, the only thing it
can't touch is a vette. Some of them came with a 2.5l Sequential Turbo
4cylinder, while some came with the toyota I6 DOHC Motor, which is famous
for locking up cam towers. He got one with an I6, it supposedly puts out
about 300hp now, after a few hundred dollars worth of mods, and fabrication.
It is nice to have a machine shop at your disposal! 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mr. Eddy [mailto:eperson@students.uiuc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:01 PM
To: Neal Tovsen
Cc: Snow, Jason; Gary Huff; UrGTI@aol.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: Shelby Dodge Lancer, oh my!


Actually the 16v is faster than the 80's supra NA's.  The 2nd gen turbo is
of course much faster than a roc but the old 1st gen and 2nd gen NA's are
really not that fast.  
My brother has an 84 but its slow as shit ill beat it. The 2nd gen is
almost an even match for a 16v.  THey are pretty damn heavy though.  I
wouldnt fuck with a new one at all, but actually the NA version of the 90's
supra is only about 6.9
sec. car - not really that fast.
just my thoughts,

Eric Person
86.5 16v

At 03:55 PM 9/29/99 -0500, Neal Tovsen wrote:
>
>All I know is that I got my ass handed to me by one this weekend at the
>AutoX. I'm not sure how many "Mk"s they had, but this was the 80's/early
>90's one. They have a lot more horsepower than a 16v, but they weigh more
>than a dump truck. This weekend's track was waaay fast, since it was put
>on by the local Corvette club. I was actually deep into 3rd gear down one
>straight, which I've never done on an AutoX before...probably in the
>neighborhood of 60mph, though I didn't ever have time to look. I believe
>he said he has a straight-six with somewhere over 200hp. There are also
>turbo-charged versions of this engine, which are obviously even faster. He
>said the thing weighed somewhere over 3500lbs tho!
>
>I have beat that guy on tight, twisty courses, but don't take a Supra on
>for a straight-line contest. You will loose. And that's just the old ones.
>The new ones are one notch below exotics! If I had the money, I wouldn't
>get a Supra, but I do have a lot of respect for them. They're nice cars.
>
>Neal
>
>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Snow, Jason wrote:
>
>> Anybody know what the deal is with the Toyota Supra, I know, I know,
bring
>> on the laughs...Is this car fast or not...I have a guy around here that's
>> been giving me the tough guy look, but he keeps pulling into parking lots
>> whenever I get near him...What should I expect when the moment is right
???
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neal Tovsen [mailto:ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:08 PM
>> To: Gary Huff
>> Cc: UrGTI@aol.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>> Subject: RE: Shelby Dodge Lancer, oh my!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My dad said he saw an article when the GLH turbo came out where they
>> track-tested the GLH against a Shelby Mustang on an IMSA-type track
>> (Sebring??). The Mustang won, but not by much!
>> 
>> Shelby just plain knows how to make *any* car fast! Even Mustangs. ;-)
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Gary Huff wrote:
>> 
>> > Yes, I watched a an omni GLHS wipe a mustang with huge flowmasters and
>> > slicks from light to light for about 3 blocks on the southside of
chicago
>> :)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: UrGTI@aol.com [mailto:UrGTI@aol.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:59 PM
>> > To: ghuff@htech.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>> > Subject: Re: Shelby Dodge Lancer, oh my!
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I beliive that car comes with a 2.2 turbo motor . With some mods they
can
>> be
>> > 
>> > fairly potent in  a straight line . Remember the omni GLHS? 
>> > I am not a Dodge boy but I do respect some of their eighties FWD cars
. A 
>> > friend had a colt turbo that would wax V8's left and right . 
>> > 
>> > Jasin
>> > 80 16v
>> > 
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>> 			Neal Tovsen
>> 
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>			Neal Tovsen
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