Re: 16V Scirocco (tranny blow up)

["Doug Teulie" <IDougT@email.msn.com>]

I think that they are talking about just dumping the shifter into 2nd and
not
rev matching or clutching properly. In other words poor driving will stress
the car
and shorten the life of all the components that are abused. I would just get
a new
tranny and keep down shifting if the statement were 100% true. VW's are
driver's cars.
The car is not some $100,000.00 sports car so Drive it. Many VW's are driven
by people who do not have much money and do not care about cars.
Usually they don't change the fluids and don't maintain the car. Then it
breaks
and the repair bill is too high to fix it properly so they dump the car. The
next
owner gets the stressed components and the car breaks. If you owned the
car its entire life you can claim that your driving style is within the
tolerance
of the design of the transmission. More often the previous owner shifted
poorly
for years and you just got a thrashed tranny with 150K on the same oil. I
bet stopping
the car with the tranny, stalling, does not help its longevity too. The
bottom line is just
drive the car and if it breaks fix it or get a better Scirocco. You should
try to drive
smooth and not stress the car too much and always down shift. The breaks are
dangerous on the turns.

Doug
87 16v silver Scirocco "GTX"
81 8v red Scirocco "S"
90 16v 2.0 white Passat WGN 5speed (was auto)
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Huff <ghuff@htech.com>
To: Snow, Jason <SnowJ@aetna.com>; Mark Peele <type53@yahoo.com>;
Captnbr@aol.com <Captnbr@aol.com>; scirocco-L@scirocco.org
<scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:45 AM
Subject: RE: 16V Scirocco (tranny blow up)


>exactly, driving is not fun without downshifting :) The only way you could
>hurt it is if you were to go downshift from 80mph into 2nd gear.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Snow, Jason [mailto:SnowJ@aetna.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:37 AM
>To: 'Gary Huff'; Mark Peele; Captnbr@aol.com; scirocco-L@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: 16V Scirocco (tranny blow up)
>
>
>Phew, If I don't downshift into a turn, and use my brakes, I'm gonna have
>mustangs crawling right up my tail thinking, that Scirocco can't handle for
>squat. You don't know how many times I hit a curve a little too fast and
>downshifting kept me from flying off the road, whereas if I hit the brake,
I
>would be floating around strumming a harp right now...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Huff [mailto:ghuff@htech.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:18 AM
>To: Mark Peele; Captnbr@aol.com; scirocco-L@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: 16V Scirocco (tranny blow up)
>
>
>I agree, downshifting is part of a spirited drive, or spirited driving.
>Speaking with the original owner of my car, that was the *2ND* VW trans
that
>was put in it. The original puked during warranty, and VW had to replace
it!
>It's not driving style, it is also not anyone's fault but the manufacturer.
>Thanks,
> Gary Huff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Peele [mailto:type53@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:11 AM
>To: Captnbr@aol.com; scirocco-L@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: 16V Scirocco (tranny blow up)
>
>
>-- Captnbr@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 9/28/99 11:41:06 AM Eastern
>> Daylight Time, ghuff@htech.com
>> writes:
>>
>> << Watch out for 020 tranny self
>>  machining syndrome, the consesus seems to be that
>> around 150,000 miles is
>>  when they go.... >>
>>
>> In researching this problem the past couple of weeks
>> I talked to a few VW
>> mech. and other mech.  Their consensus for
>> prolonging this from happening was
>> to NEVER use the engine as a brake, and not to
>> downshift and use the engine
>> as a brake.  They said this puts tremedous pressures
>> on the drivetrain and
>> helps cause the rivites to snap. One mech. said
>> curtly that people don't get
>> it, that is why they put a brake pedal in the car
>> transaxles just can't
>> handle those pressures.  Just passing on some info.
>>
>> Brian 86 16v
>=====================
>I think this is BS.
>
>I downshift - not to brake, but to keep the motor in
>the power band. I've been doing this for (too) many
>years.
>
>Please do not be afraid to drive your car!!!!! (it's
>fun!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>=====
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