Appreciate the input, like I said, I am thinking that I am going to go ahead and throw in them HORs, then down the raod a bit, if I don't em, H&Rs or bust baby!!! Ben 88 "Flash Silver Metallic" 16v Scirocco -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org