Re: speaking of rear mufflers

[thescirocco@juno.com]

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:34:05 -0700 "Bradley Peet"
<btpeet@effervescent.com> writes:
> The sad reality is that if you have no cat and a straight through 
> muffler, the car is going to be loud whenever you're not at idle and
REALLY 
> LOUD when you're getting on it.  It doesn't matter which header or
downpipe 
> you use -- the absence of the catalytic converter is why it is so
incredibly 
> loud.
> 
I have the TT 2" race pipe and it is exponentially louder than just
removing the cat.
The guys at Techtonics can vouch for that.
I had a Dynomax Superturbo on there, and when I added the race downpipe,
I noticed a lot less power off the line and it was "rice" loud. This
setup screamed on the highway though, even with the a/c on.
The '88 S16V was my daily ride, so I opted for a quieter muffler. I went
with a Walker Quietflow, which restored my bottom end and then some, but
it would start choking the engine @ 6800 rpm.
The 2" downpipe is now going on my '79 Scirocco, with a TT SS 2 1/4" with
a straighthru Ultraflo muffler. I know it will be loud, but I hope it is
a good loud. : ^ )

Peter


> You might want to reconsider the Dynomax Super Turbo muffler.  They 
> flow fairly well and would really help quiet things down.  They are
also 
> cheap so you can afford to replace it every two years when the internal

> baffles start rattling.
> 
> The only way to get a reasonably quiet exhaust with no cat is to put 
> a turbo on there!  Seriously.  When my turbo was first installed, I was

> running the 2.25" TT system with Ultra-Flo and no cat and it was
amazingly 
> QUIET.  I'm now running 2.5" system and cat and the car is very quiet
but still 
> has a pleasant tone to the exhaust.
> 
> On that note, if anyone wants my old 2.25" 16V exhaust (complete 
> with tri-Y header), check it out on my web site and make me an offer.  
> (Recently sandblasted and painted the header with high-temp aluminum
paint.)  
> I don't really want to box and ship it but who knows, I might get
desperate 
> enough.
> 
> Bradley
> '86 S16V 2.0 "T"
> http://dns.effervescent.com/vw/
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 05:01:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Anthony Pelletier <vwnuts@yahoo.com>
> Subject: speaking of rear mufflers
> 
> Hi all,
> all this talk about the eurosport mufflers got me
> thinking.  what can I use will sound good but not to
> loud on a 16v with a race dp and no cat?
> 
> I have the tt straight through right now and it is WAY
> too loud!.  Take you exhaust off at the down pipe
> start the car rev to 7,000 now you know what I hear
> every day.  I love the sound but I am going to get
> arrested.  My friends can sit in their house and tell
> me where I go just by listening.  I have a freind that
> lives a mile away and he hears me untill my drive way.
>  get the idea.
> 
> I need something that will be good performing but not
> too loud.  I don't want the dynomax super turbo-I
> don't care for it.  What do supersprints sound like
> wiht no cat.  how about borla (I have heard the tt
> versions and it is still loud though)  also is there
> anything that will fit to my exhisting TT 2.25" pipe.
> 
> any suggestions welcomed(except using earplugs-already
> been there)

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