Re: Rings n' tings

[Kevin <aventari@cts.com>]

Hmmmm, I seem to get a lot of oil belched out of the breather too.. I
installed a cam  baffle on the new motor and even so I get more oil out of
the breather than when I had the old 1.7 w/o a baffle. I dont think it's
the rings though


At 04:04 PM 3/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
>    Well, the reason I brought this up is because I may be having some
sealing
>problems.  I'm losing oil through my v/c breather.  This may seem 
>normal if I did not have a cam baffle..   but I do.  So I'm guessing 
>there's a little blow-by.  I'm not positive what rings were used in my 
>motor.(hopefully not TS).  I thought they were OEM, but have never 
>heard of sealing problems with factory rings.  I need to run a 
>compression check and see whats up.  For now..   I'm  just 
>thinking...........   ...  ..
>                      - Noah           
>
>> Hmm Well I used them in my buildup that finished about 6 months ago, I've
>> put around 6000 miles on it and the rings work fine for me. I have nothing
>> to compare it to, however i've had no problems. 
>>  Installing the rings I found that there was a lot of end gap, but I
>>  called
>> Total Seal and of course they said it was fine. It was at the outer edge
>> of specs for my motor. 
>> 
>>  Now that I think about what Shawn said, on my last compression test my
>> reading were a bit uneven.. cyl 1 and 2 were like 155psi, 3 was 140 i
>> think and  4 was like 160 or something. I remember they were all good, but
>> more uneven than i would like for a new motor.
>> 
>> Here's the specs I recorded building the motor. Keep in mind this was my
>> first time ever CC'ing anything so it's not very accurate (why i did it
>> twice) but id say it was + or - 2cc .
>> 
>> Piston ring end gap:
>>   Cyl 1           Cyl 2           Cyl 3           Cyl 4
>> Top     .17"            .17"            .17"            .17"
>> 2nd     .16"            .14"            .17"            .16"
>> oil     .23"            .14"            .22/.18"        .18"
>> --
>> CC'ing the head 
>>         Cyl 1           Cyl 2           Cyl 3           Cyl  4
>> 1st CC  29cc            29cc            30cc            28cc
>> 2nd CC  28.5cc          28.5cc          29.5cc          28.5cc
>> 
>> 
>> The TS rings aren't teflon or nylon coated, they are regular rings, but
>> they have a special 2nd ring with 3 parts that are offset so as to
>> eliminate the ring end gap. Works in theory, i've never seen back to back
>> tests though. That'd be expensive!!
>> 
>> At 01:29 PM 3/11/99 -0600, you wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >    Hello fellow rocc'ers
>> > I was just wondering if anyone has used or had any experience 
>> >with "total seal" piston rings.  From what I've heard, they are some kind
>> >of teflon/nylon coated special rings that are better than normal rings
>> >for some reason(can't remember).  I had heard that they take longer to
>> >seal than normal rings, but eventually seal much better(better
>> >compresion?).  Is this some kind of american car hot rod stuff? Worth
>> >using? 
>> >
>> >always got mo' ideas..
>> >  - Noah
>> >
>> >
>> >noah@newdimensions.com
>> >http://www.newdimensions.com
>> 
>> Kevin Fry -- computer nerd!
>> '81 Scirocco S 1.8l
>> '80 Scirocco   0.0l
>> 
>
>
>noah@newdimensions.com
>http://www.newdimensions.com
>
>

Kevin Fry -- computer nerd!
'81 Scirocco S 1.8l
'80 Scirocco   0.0l

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