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Re: [TECH] [INJECTION] Fuel Pump (1981 Scirocco)

To: William J Erikson <williamjosiah@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [TECH] [INJECTION] Fuel Pump (1981 Scirocco)
From: Mark Madison <mmadison@aracnet.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT)
cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
In-Reply-To: <19990722.171932.-988577.1.williamjosiah@juno.com>
Sender: Majordomo <majord@neubayern.net>
yes, agreed, but there is a screen in the pick up housing in the bottom of
the tank too.  I know, I had to cut into my gas tank to repair the rubber
hose that connects the side metal tube to the fuel pick up assembly.
Anyone know why VW made the inner tube metal the outer tube metal and the
hose that connects them rubber, instead of one big metal tube?  I had a
stall in a right hand turn that I finally figured out after two months of
trouble.  Finally figured it out after filling my car up.  I probably
would have noticed earlier but 1 tank of gas can last a long time when
stationed in the marines in hawaii.  talk about never having to drive
anywhere......

mark

----------------------------
Mark Madison
mmadison@aracnet.com

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, William J Erikson wrote:

> Lifter? There's a tube that comes out of the side of the tank, at the
> bottom, and feeds right into the main pump. The thing at the top of the
> tank is just a fuel guage sending unit, and nothing else.
> 	-Josiah
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:38:57 +0100 Ewan Hopkins
> <Ewan.Hopkins@computeraid.co.uk> writes:
> > You'll still have the filter on the lifter, though.
> > 
> > Ewan.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William J Erikson [mailto:williamjosiah@juno.com]
> > Sent: 20 July 1999 17:10
> > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: [TECH] [INJECTION] Fuel Pump (1981 Scirocco)
> > 
> > 
> > No in-tank pump on my '84 Rabbit!
> > 	-Josiah
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:35:56 +0100 Ewan Hopkins
> > <Ewan.Hopkins@computeraid.co.uk> writes:
> > >It's on the bottom of the lifter/in-tank pump assembly.  If you 
> > look 
> > >under
> > >your back seat, there's a round hatch which covers the lifter 
> > >assembly.  The
> > >assembly is a twist-fit into the top of the tank.  The filter is 
> > >usually a
> > >fine plastic mesh cap which pops on to the bottom of the fuel 
> > lifter.  
> > >If it
> > >is clogged then you'll get the same results as having a clogged 
> > fuel 
> > >filter,
> > >i.e. high pump mortality!  As a zero-cost maintenance option 
> > >(assuming
> > >you're doing it yourself) it's worth checking now & again.
> > >
> > >
> > >HTH,
> > >
> > >Ewan Hopkins
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: William J Erikson [mailto:williamjosiah@juno.com]
> > >Sent: 19 July 1999 02:45
> > >To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > >Subject: Re: [TECH] [INJECTION] Fuel Pump (1981 Scirocco)
> > >
> > >
> > >Where is the intank filter? Didn't know there was one. I think the 
> > >rust
> > >has all worked itself out now (if there was any), because when the 
> > >last
> > >pump died, I took it apart, and it appeared to be a manufacturing 
> > >defect
> > >that caused it to fail. This one seems to be doing fine so far 
> > >(thanks,
> > >Brian!)
> > >	I've had seven different pumps in my GTI.
> > >	I know that pump #1 didn't work in the first place (brand 
> > >new)
> > >	Pump #2 was the same as pump #1 (they were both stupid 
> > >AutoZone
> > >pumps)
> > >	Pump #3 died from a really exceptionally lousy electrical
> > >connection,
> > >and besides it wasn't a Bosch anyway, it just kindof worked, for 
> > >awhile.
> > >I got this one because I called up Blackstone (the manufacturer of 
> > >the
> > >AutoZone pump) and hassled them about the fact that their pumps 
> > >didn't
> > >work until they sent me one that did (for free)
> > >	Pump #4 died from a clogged fuel filter (it was close to 
> > >dying
> > >anyway -
> > >junkyard pump)
> > >	Pump #5 died for the same reason as pump #4
> > >	Pump #6 died due to a manufacturing defect. I FINALLY 
> > bought 
> > >a
> > >brand-
> > >new Bosch and replaced the fuel filter at the same time, and it was
> > >working great, no problems, and then one day my brother drove the 
> > car 
> > >to
> > >Henniker, parked it, came back out to start it again, and the pump 
> > >was
> > >seized.
> > >	Pump #7 is doing great so far. We'll see : )
> > >	-Josiah
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:20:19 -0400 "Steven Toughill" 
> > ><stoughill@home.com>
> > >writes:
> > >>Never had such a problem, the tank is probly contaminated, pull 
> > the 
> > >>fuel
> > >>sender anmd look at the intank filter and while your there the 
> > tank.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Steven Toughill
> > >>ASE Cert VW Technician
> > >>Volks-Tech Inc.
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: William J Erikson <williamjosiah@juno.com>
> > >>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >>Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 6:17 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: [TECH] [INJECTION] Fuel Pump (1981 Scirocco)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Ah, the infamous A1 pump. It sucks. I hate it. I've had like 8 
> > >>different
> > >>>pumps on my GTI. Sometimes you can unfreeze them by hitting them 
> > on
> > >>>something hard. Sometimes you can't. I had a brand new one seize 
> > on 
> > >
> > >>me
> > >>>for no reason whatsoever. If you bought it from Bosch and you 
> > still 
> > >
> > >>have
> > >>>the receipt, they do have a one year warranty on them.
> > >>> -Josiah
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:26:52 -0400 Mark A Peele 
> > >><scirocco.gtx@juno.com>
> > >>>writes:
> > >>>> I put a new fuel pump on my 1981 Scirocco when it was in North
> > >>>> Carolina (two months ago).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> After getting the car up here, the car has not been starting 
> > (the
> > >>>> car is in storage). I checked the leads last night - the pump 
> > is
> > >>>> getting "Juice".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The pump appears to have seized - I've heard that you can free 
> > it 
> > >
> > >>by
> > >>>> "hitting it with a hammer".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any comments or input????
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mark Peele
> > >>>> 1981 Scirocco S, 1982 Scirocco, 1987 Golf GT
> > >>>> Then there's Kristen's '78 Scirocco
> > >>>> http://home.t-online.de/home/Scirocco2/mark.htm
> > >>>> Direct Mail: SCIROCCO_GTX@YAHOO.COM
> > >>>>
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