The best tool ever given to human kind: brute force. I used to have to wham my old rocco's hatch so hard that everyone in a one mile radius took cover. Maybe yours is broke, or maybe it needs a little dose of "tough love." Just my idea, grrr. Ben 84 8v -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org