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16v antenna installation
Message text written by INTERNET:john.erk@sympatico.ca
>Has any one installed a 16v (Fuba or whatever) antenna on an 8v or 16v
for that matter?Easy on a Golf but on the scirocco with the vinyl
headliner.....I would think it would be pretty easy to rip the
liner,taking it down or putting it back. Any tips?
I know the 16v antenna looks 100% better, but is it worth risking
#@*$ing up my perfect liner that I spent like 4hrs scrubbing to get back
it's pearly white smile?
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I did the conversion 10 years ago . Make sure it dosen't
LEAK!!!!.It took me about 2.5 hours to do the job.
It looked great when it was over. Wash your hands to keep the headliner
clean.
This is a list of F.A.Q.'s and answers from the list.
Doug
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There are two models of Fuba antennas. One is the rear roof mounted and
the other is a little known fender replacement unit. Lets forget about
the fender one for now because when I started the 1st sentence I meant
there are two Fubas; one amp'ed and one that is not amplified.
The standard, I believe, is to provide 12v via the coax cable. An
adapter jig can be ordered from Crutchfield to supply this power for the
amp in the ant.
Cruise this FAQ on Jan's site: (Everybody ought to send Jan a dollar,
and not because he's expecting it.)
http://www-pal.usc.edu/~jan/vw/Electrical/antenna
I too think the extra wire is an amp switch lead. Just guessing though.
hth,
TBerk
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FAQ ) I didn't take a good look under the roof (inside
the car), but I have absolutly no idea on how to
take the inside roof pannel off. I can't see any
screws or anything to let me take it off to tighten
the bolt...! Anyone know how to take it off?
Help!
FAQ) Im gettin a fuba antenna i was wonderin where the wire runs ?
FAQ) .How tough was it to get by the headliner? It looks like it is very
easy
to get underneath the headliner close to the door: you just slide the
black thingie out of the car frame and the edge of the headliner is
exposed. The tricky part seems to be close to the hole on the roof: the
headliner there is snug underneath the rear-windshield rubber and doesn't
look that trivial to get out and in again. How have you guys routed the
antenna wire from the side of the car to the hole on the roof?
A). GO to a junk yard and do it on a junk car first. Do not run it up the
"A" pil;lar on a Scirocco. Go up the "B" pillar.
It really is not that hard of a job. Pull the passengers side rear
quarter window, peal the headliner away from the window frame part of
the car, lower the headliner, drill and mount as the
directions with the antenna instruct, run the wire down the passenger side
B-pillar and under the carpet to the front, and reassemble.
OR
OIpen the hatch, and pull the seal. Peel the
headliner back and it will drape down. The drilling is easy especially now
since now you won't drill through the headliner. I put the wire in the
factory location. Over to the right c pillar down to ware the rear washer
resivor is the up front behine the rear quarter panel, then behind the rear
right door panel, under the back seat bottom and up the center of the floor
to the radio.
Just be patient, read the instructions, measure and mark where to drill
carefully, and enjoy the experience. That or you could pay a shop way
too much to do it who most likely is not any more competent than you. I
had a friend who paid someone to do it and the fool managed to put a hole
in the A-pillar running the wire...
Good luck!
A #2) I just installed my Fuba antenna. I came with all the necessary
hardware
minus a drill bit. It was very easy to install, just make sure you get it
centered. The antenna cable was not long enough to reach my stereo, I had
to but an two foot extension from Radio shack $2.00. I have no headliner
in my car cuz' it's slowly being redone. I think it would be easier to
remove the top of the hatchback seal and pull the headliner back from
there.
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FAQ) Could one of you 16v guys measure how far from the "rear lip",
(where the hatch starts), of the roof the factory mounted Fuba hole is.
When I'm done drilling a hole in the roof of my 82 8v I want it to look
stock! Thanks in advance for the help.
FAQ) Can someone who has the stock 16v Fuba antenna do me a favour? I am
installing the Fuba on my car (it goes in for paint next week - YAY!), and
I need to know where on the roof to drill the hole. The sheet that came
with my antenna (and yes, I bought the real Fuba antenna from VW) has
dimensions for the Golf, Polo and Passat - but no Scirocco.
The measurement I need is from the back of the roof to the centre of the
antenna base. For the Golf, it gives a dimension of 120 mm ... but I
would rather have someone measure it so I know I'm drilling in the right
place.
A) Answer is 4.275 inches Rear lip to center of Fuba when mounted.
A) When I installed my fuba, I measure a couple of 16v's and came up with a
measurement of about 6 to 6 1/2 inches. I figured that I would err on
the side of caution and drilled it at 6 1/2. That was almost a big
mistake. I have a sunroof and when it is fully retracted, it now comes
about 3/4 of an inch to 1/2 an inch from the front of the antenna. I
would drill the hole at 6 inches from the back of the car and give
yourself some extra leeway.
R) 6.5in. ???? thats really weird. All the 16v I measured were around 3,
3.5in. I
don't have a head liner in my car (of a sun roof) so I could make some
difinative measurements from the inside to find out where you can drill
without getting in trouble.
Q) Is that 3-3.25 from the roof to the end of the antennae or to the
center.
He asked to the center of the antennae, I don't think I could be that
far off.
R) 3.25in from the end of the roof to the rear edge of the base of the
antanna
(not 3in to the hole.
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FAQ. where do I get the cap to cover my driver side fender hole? Dealer?
A. My car came with it. It had no radio when it was new.
You can get the cap to plug the hole in the fender at Westcoast
Metric. It is item #443-9900, it costs $1.40.
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FAQ. does the Fuba kit come with absolutely all necessary items?
A. Mine did. I had to buy a drill bit. I used a small hole saw. RTV.
I just follwed the directions that came with my antenna, used the sealant
stuff that came with it, and I've had -zero- leakage.
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FAQ. Even though the Fuba has the amplifier, some people say that it is
actually less effective in reception than normal, long antennas, simply
because of its tiny length. True? No?
A). It works ok. The advantage is the location( at the back) as far away
from the coil. I haven't found it to be a problem as long as it is grounded
good when
mounted this means you have to see bear metal on the under side of the
roof.
A) As for reception, Ilive of the east side of the Oregon Cascade mountain.
If
you want any acceptable radio station it has to come from Medford Oregon,
80
miles on the west side of the cascades. reception is perfect!!!!!!!!!!
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I just follwed the directions that came with my antenna, used the sealant
stuff that came with it, and I've had -zero- leakage.
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> I've had -zero- leakage. >
How long has it been up there?
Mine started to leak after 6 years. It stopped after 8 years. Sold it after
9 years.
I painted the edge of the sheet metal ( in the new drilled hole) to
prevent rust.
It worked, I recomend it.
My other two 16v's (GTI & Scirocco) have not leaked as far as I know.
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FAQ) Another question concerning the Fuba, do they make a CB Radio
compatible
model? Sure would like to avoid putting an ugly CB antenna on the
Scirocco.
Has anyone out there used a Fuba with a CB?
A)The fuba is way to short for the CB waves, I suggest get Radio Shacks
book about antennas thats how i figured it out. The length of the antenna
and
coil are important to its performance and i definatly suggest getting the
antenna to CB matched so you don't fry your CB. I made that mistake
already.
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From the three antannae that I have changed, I found the easiest thing to
do is
to run the wire along the roof line, down the pillar, and under the dash to
the
back of the radio. I have also found that the need to take out the old
wiring
is not necessary. In fact, I am due to receive 2 Fubas from Denon, which I
am
a dealer for, that also amplify a cellular phone. I havent used them yet,
or
even seen them for that matter, but it is described as a normal Fuba with a
box
that goes behind the radio, that has 2 plugs- 1 for the radio, and one for
the
cell phone. They are much easier to replace in the Jetta or golf.
Incidently,
there are always people looking for a fuba mast, and base.
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The factory does NOT go up the pillar,
it goes from the radio down through the middle pad, back towards the
rear along the floor pan, across to the passenger side rear footwell,
up into the rear passenger sidewell and up and goes into the
headliner in the pasnger back corner by that hatch pill arm then
across the roof towards the driver side (to the middle) whereit is
mounted. this nets you limited headliner peelback, just peel back
the rear cloth thats glued under the hatch rubber seal strip and
disconenct the first metal wire (16v)
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FAQ)Has anybody tried a Fuba antenna installation on a MK1?
I hear it is not so easy...please respond if you have tried this.
A) Not hard at all
Carefully pull the rubber gasket from around the upper hatch rim. It is
glued into a channel so be carefull not to rip it.
Pull the headliner out from the bottom of this channel. I found that
patience and a small set of needlenose pliers worked well.
This will allow the headliner to droop enough to drill the hole and tighten
the bolt without ripping the liner.
I routed my wire through the C pillar on the drivers side. The problem you
will have is that the Fuba wire is not long enough to reach all the way to
your stock radio position (mine is in the center like a Mk2) so you may
have to get the antennae and wiring from a Jetta or Passat.
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GOOD LUCK!!!
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