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Re: sway bars



One add to Mannix's comments: the factory rear bars do not limit twist
either. I'm running the factory 16V rear bar on my '82 (24mm) - with good
results.

But I don't AutoX

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Scirocco 1982, Golf GT 1987
Previous Sciroccos: 1981S (RIP), 1980S, 1975TS, 1975
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From: "I.Mannix" <mannix@privatei.com>
To: Anthony Pelletier <apelle62@mail.caps.maine.edu>,
scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: sway bars
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:42:05 -0700
Message-ID: <199811210342.UAA02011@mantis.privatei.com>


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>From: "Anthony Pelletier" <apelle62@MAIL.CAPS.MAINE.EDU>
>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: sway bars
>Date: Tue, Nov 10, 1998, 2:05 PM
>

>Hi everyone
>
>I have some handling questions for you all. 
>I am debating what to run on my 16v.  I already have neuspeed springs 
>I have boge struts (for now)  I plan on upgrading to the koni 
>adjustables.  I am debating what sway bars to run.  
>I know lots of people have the neuspeed or autotech bars.  how do ya 
>like em????  also do you run the stock rear bar at the same time.
>
>also what about H & H specalties. 


I've come to prefer H&H style bars over Neuspeed.  Neuspeed's bar will
bind
at some point - the axle and beam twist around different axis, and
Neuspeed's bar is fixed to the shockbolt.  Autotech has gotten around
this
somewhat by incorporating a slider bushing at the shockbolt, which makes
sense.  

Question is, at what point does the bar bind with the beam, making it
rigid?
 Is it within the normal operating range of the twist beam?  If not,
well,
it sorta does not matter.  I've never bothered to figure it out, but at
_some_ point, the bar will bind.   They do seem to work ok, leading me to
believe that the bar binds well outside "normal" twist ranges, but I
don't
know.

H&H's rear bar will not limit twist.  Neither should Autotech's.  H&Hs
design(Shine & BSI or OPM's are similar design) is clever,
straightforward
and seem to work well.  I particularly like H&Hs front bars - they
incorporate a lower stressbar with the swaybar.  H&H advertises bar
rates,
an unusual and appreciated feature, but IMHO, they're a tad misleading.

For rear bars, I'd look at Autotech or H&H.  I'm not too enthused with
the
Neuspeed design, personally.  Front bars, H&H, my Autotech with homemade
brackets is good, hated the Neuspeed, and I'd buy H&H if I were to do it
again.  

WRT hollow bars, my front 22mm Neuspeed weighed 10lbs, the hollow
Autotech
is 7 - not a bad bar, but don't buy it on weight savings.

I.Mannix




 I have their pamphlet from water 
>festl.  Their stuff looks nice.  anyone have any experience.  How 
>about price.  
>I will be running 15" rims with 195/50/15 pirelli p700z's for now 
>anyway.  
>autoX guru's chime in.  I intend to race it next year.  what works 
>what doesn't 
>
>thanks 
>Tony
>
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