grade eight?

[pb3vr6 at yahoo.com (Tonee Northam)]

SS Minnow?
  (ducking for cover)
   
  Just kidding Don, that's amazing to hear. I never have met anyone that has served on a carrier.

Don Walter <dswalterwi@gmail.com> wrote: 
  My dad served on carriers as a PT Boilerman but most likely before your
time. He served on Midway, Kearsarge??, and another one I can't remember
the name.

On 3/27/07, Chris Bennett wrote:
>
> Back in the good 'ole days when I was in the navy... Ah I remember it
> like it was last year...
>
> ;) Sorry I had to say it.
>
> I guess that was a good thing about being on a carrier and a tender.
> If we "broke" we just sat there for a while. The bright side as you
> said was that loss changed how we did business in general. From what
> I understand there have been several close calls from that same time
> period. We lost a hundred men but that brought the changes that saved
> so many more.
>
> On 3/26/07, Allyn wrote:
> > > All this talk of fastener grades reminds me of the subsafe
> > > program in the Navy. The idea is that you want to keep the
> > > water out of the people tank.
> > >
> > > I was always told it was an incorrect grade of fastener on
> > > the Thresher that failed allowing a large volume of water
> > > into the switchgear (killing power) but reading about it
> > > onlines tells me that it was an incorrectly brazed joint on a
> > > main seawater valve. Same effect.
> > >
> > > I am sure that Al can correct me. I was NOT a submariner. I
> > > would not be able to speak of such things intelligently
> > > because I was a surface weenie (and consequently hete-- um
> > > nevermind I won't say it.
> > > LOL)
> >
> > It most likely started with the silver brazed joints, but ended with the
> then poor standard procedure of having a hair-trigger for
> > isolating the steam system (from the reactor), which cut off
> propulsion. On a submarine, propulsion speed has a BIG influence on
> > the ability to 'drive' the ship shallow - even more than blowing the
> ballast tanks dry (which is risky when deep, as breaking the
> > surface at an uncontrolled angle can result in the ballast tanks
> partially re-filling with water). Imagine a cup, upside down,
> > submerged in water, full of air. For the equivalent visual, tilt the
> cup.
> >
> > While the Thresher was a sad loss for the Navy, it caused _significant_
> improvements in safety across the entire submarine fleet.
> > All joints are precision welded with matching material, tested, retested
> (radiography / ultrasonic). Procedures were re-written
> > sith significantly greater flexibility (if absolutely necessary, we can
> boil the steam plant dry in order to propel the ship to the
> > surface and save the crew). Safety systems were installed (there are
> now emergency stations that can remotely shut all major hull
> > openings of that compartment within seconds). Heck, some boats can
> literally pressurize an entire compartment, so as long as the
> > (theoretically gaping) hole is low, the space will only fill to the
> level of that hole (though this only works at surface pressures,
> > so getting there is rather important (back to the steam plant comment
> above)).
> >
> > Last comms from the Thresher:
> > "... minor difficulties, have positive up-angle, attempting to blow."
> > (5 minutes later)
> > "exceeding test depth ... nine hundred north".
> > (1 minute later, the tracking ships sonar detected the implosion)
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
>
>
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